| ▲ | throwaw12 2 days ago |
| > The image of Nvidia advocating for exports of GPUs to china As a business, why shouldn't they advocate for export to a relatively huge market? It is an expansion for them and from a business perspective completely expected. |
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| ▲ | Dr_Birdbrain 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| The advocacy is not the problem. The problem is that, once the ban was in place, they skirted the ban. |
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| ▲ | onlyrealcuzzo a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Didn't everyone already know that China was buying Nvidia GPUs? Is the problem that Nvidia was not making it as hard as it should have? Realistically, how much does that even matter? | | |
| ▲ | treefry a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Now legislators demonstrated how much that matters. I don't have the knowledge to evaluate the national security concerns. But from the outcome, it's a matter they'll firmly push as a long term strategy, even at the cost of one of the world's most visionary CEOs. | |
| ▲ | Levitz a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Because the government, empowered by the people, have decided it matters, as a matter of national security. There's is no argument to be had about this specifically. You can argue whether this is true or not, but that's not relevant to this subject. If Nvidia still decides to ignore the government, it'd be not only completely, absolutely fair, to nationalize the corporation, but the country itself has a duty to its citizens to do such thing. | | |
| ▲ | nmfisher a day ago | parent [-] | | > Because the government, empowered by the people, have decided it matters, as a matter of national security. The government, empowered by the people, never decided to put Megaspeed on a blocklist though. |
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| ▲ | jappgar a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | They and their shareholders are about to find out how much it matters. |
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| ▲ | parineum 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Which is not what the comment being replied to said at all. |
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| ▲ | jkukul 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They should and there’s nothing wrong with only advocating. The problem is that it wasn’t just advocating but (possibly) knowingly subverting the export controls |
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| ▲ | samrus 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well its suspicious. If they were onoy advocating then thats free speech, but if they also skirted the ban, then its then kinda admitting to it |
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| ▲ | xboxnolifes a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You intentionally cut off the why here. |
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| ▲ | kphorn 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Turns out there are laws and regulations that restrict one’s ability to lobby for foreign interests as both a public and private individual. Read about NJ Senator Bob Menendez which is a particularly egregious example. |
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| ▲ | stasomatic 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Let's export rockets, F-35s, Typhoons, Rafales', Gripens, jet turbines. China should have infiltrated ASML, not much they can do without them until they get the blueprints. Unlikely they aren't doing it already. |
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| ▲ | throwaw12 a day ago | parent [-] | | > rockets, F-35s, Typhoons, Rafales', Gripens, jet turbines these are actual weapons, does anyone use GPUs to kill humans? | | |
| ▲ | serf a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Yep.[0] US congresspersons and international media outlets condemned the use of AI warfare against Iran, including the Department of Defense's (DoD) Project Maven—a target tagging system integrating elements of Palantir's Maven Smart System and Anthropic's Claude large language model. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack | |
| ▲ | AnimalMuppet a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They can be part of the "kill chain", yes. | | |
| ▲ | throwaw12 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | everything can be a part of "kill chain" Soldier who bombed Iran might have eaten an apple, doesn't mean apple is the killer |
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| ▲ | stasomatic a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | There was the kerfuffle with Dario Amodei and Pete Hegseth, who declared Anthropic a supply chain risk to the US. IMO, yes. Killer robots don't run on one 5090 :) There is more spelunking to that situation, but that's a different thread. |
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