| ▲ | joshstrange 14 hours ago |
| This slavish devotion to shareholder value above all else is pretty gross. He cheated, multiple times, he is scum for that. He seems to have consorted with a spy and evaded export bans. He is a criminal for that. Oh, but he made people a lot of money? All good! /s Throwing all morals and ethics out the window because of the eCoNoMy is insane. The cult of personality around CEOs is unhealthy. |
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| ▲ | kphorn 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Both can be true. What if Jensen is a guy who did bad things and Nvidia triggers a recession because it loses its central status on AI? |
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| ▲ | stetrain 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If a single person was keeping the market from a recession, then that itself is the issue, not the removal of that person. | | |
| ▲ | djaro 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | not necessarily. One athlete's performance can be the difference between a team winning and losing. One general can make the difference between winning and losing a war. No risk also comes with the downside of no reward, artificially constraining high achievers so we dont become too reliant on them just means everyone is equally low achieving | | |
| ▲ | stetrain 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | Trillions of investment across people's retirement accounts being vulnerable to one heart attack, stroke, or car accident isn't resilient. |
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| ▲ | oblio 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | We need better markets and recessions are the cost of cleaning markets up, unfortunately. | |
| ▲ | joshstrange 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I never said there wouldn't be consequences to the economy. I said it's crazy to put up with such bad behavior to spare the economy. | | |
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| ▲ | 2OEH8eoCRo0 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The comments in these threads are somewhat sickening. That so many commenters here see no problem with his behavior is troubling. |
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| ▲ | Freedom2 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Welcome to HackerNews! | |
| ▲ | sidibe 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Hero worshippers. | |
| ▲ | pesus 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Par for the course on HN, unfortunately. I once thought the stereotypes about "tech bros" were overblown, but HN users seem dedicated to proving them right. Something's gone wrong if you're making comments complaining about how ethics don't matter at all in life and money is the only thing to ever be considered. |
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| ▲ | computerex 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Totally agree. And that's late-stage capitalism for you. For a site named "hacker news" the hacker spirit is noticeably absent here. Instead you have simps for billionaires. |
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| ▲ | djaro 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If anything Jensen Huang is the exact embodiment of the hacker spirit. An engineer who singlehandedly created one of the most valuable companies on earth by creating the chips that AI runs on. I dont get how you can talk about the "hacker spirit" but then talk about "late-stage capitalism" (essentially the flat-earthism of economy) and tech founders. | | |
| ▲ | pesus 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > I dont get how you can talk about the "hacker spirit" but then talk about "late-stage capitalism" (essentially the flat-earthism of economy) and tech founders. Can you elaborate on why you think not a single aspect of late stage capitalism is true in any capacity, like flat-earthism? | |
| ▲ | computerex 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What are you smoking? > An engineer who singlehandedly created one of the most valuable companies on earth Nvidia has 42k employees. Nvidia chips are not the only chips AI runs on. Google for example runs everything on their own TPU's. I don't know how you can talk so much out of your ass. Simping for billionaires is not "hacker spirit". | | |
| ▲ | NetMageSCW 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | How many employees did it start with? | | |
| ▲ | computerex 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | 3 employees. That was 33 years ago. If you seriously think he is solely responsible for nvidia’s success I am willing to bet that you also voted for Trump. | | |
| ▲ | NetMageSCW 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Also, solely, no. Majorly, is obvious from the history. | | |
| ▲ | computerex an hour ago | parent [-] | | Do try and use your brain. Nvidia scaled to 100s of employees literally by 1999. Today they have 42k employees. You are hilariously wrong. If Jensen did it all on his own then why did nvidia have greater than 10k employees for the last 10 years? Greater than 1000 employees for the last 20 years? What do you think these people are doing all day? Hell even Jensen only owns like 3.5% of the company. You are absolutely clueless. |
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| ▲ | NetMageSCW 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You would be wrong but way to live up to the stereotype. |
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| ▲ | CPLX 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The thing to remember every time you see the orange, so you don't forget, is that you are posting on the promotional website of a multibillion-dollar private equity firm. | | |
| ▲ | taylorfinley 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | This is of course true that YC provides this platform but, tapping in to my religious upbringing, it's a bit like confusing a church for the building it's in. Ycombinator owns the building that the community meets in, but the community is bigger than the landlord. The landlord can set some rules and influence what happens in the building, but if they impose too much on the community it will find a different building to meet in. | | |
| ▲ | CPLX 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | If you think that the values of a church have nothing to do with the discussions that happen inside of the church, I'm not sure what to tell you. If you believe the opposite, that's exactly the same point that I was just making. | | |
| ▲ | taylorfinley 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think we almost certainly agree at least about the nature of YC, but I didn't make my point clearly. A church is a community that meets in a building; the building the community meets in is not the church. Many smaller churches meet in neighborhood centers that are state-owned, if the state imposed a no prayer rule on meetings in the neighborhood center, I suspect the community would find a new building to meet in. By analogy: the amoral VC nitwits that own the HN servers could try to enforce their values on the discussions here, but doing so with a heavy hand would quickly drive the true 'hacker' community elsewhere. Dang has a very light hand, especially when it comes to topics around YC that get discussed here. Sure, there are no shortage of bootlicking CEO cargo cultists here looking for the right turtleneck/leather jacket combo to ascend to their rightful place at the top of the pile with PG and Sama... And being associated with the HN community's ethos certainly gives an undeserved glow to YC, which like all VC accelerators really is just a predatory tool of the wealthy investor class to maintain control of capital (a poor kid that grows up and founds a company that creates a ton of wealth could have dangerous ideas, best to capture them early and give them an approved board and structures to constrain them...) That said, I frequently come across things here that subvert the platform's owners. For example, I think pretty much every member of my anti-VC founder alliance [0] found it through my own comments here. I get personal joy from promoting that here, subverting YC's own platform to challenge their golden goose. So yes, know whose house this is, but stay aware of who has the power (us). [0] https://NOVC.fyi |
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| ▲ | marcusverus 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > This slavish devotion to shareholder value above all else is pretty gross. Anti-capitalists appealing to bourgeoisie values in their zeal to destroy a capitalist icon is pretty freakin' rich. |
