| ▲ | colesantiago 3 hours ago |
| > Let the enshittification begin But is there a solution to this though? How does one stop 'enshittification' of everything exactly? I'm not talking just about Anthropic. |
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| ▲ | palata 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| One thing Doctorow suggests is to remove anti-circumvention, thus allowing adversarial interoperability. |
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| ▲ | knollimar 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Is that a principle that is ethical in general? Like is it ethical to put in my ToS that you get a free api but you can’t use it to make a competing service? I feel this is quite common |
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| ▲ | tremarley 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Competition Enforcement Strong privacy laws Tech unionization Mandated data portability. |
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| ▲ | mapontosevenths 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Competition is important, but the way you fix that is by fixing the terms of copyright and patents. Intellectual property, at it's simplest, is a government mandated monopoly granted to allow for progress in the sciences and "useful arts" (think trades really, not arts and crafts). All monopolies are bad, but it was only to be granted for a limited time so it was fine. Corrupt politicians ruined the entire trade off though, and now it seems that copyrights and patents last for 100 years plus the life of the universe. During which time no one can really compete fairly. If we want rapid progress in science, we want short patents. Instead we opted for long patents and a higher stock price. R&D budgets have been shrinking ever since. | |
| ▲ | colesantiago 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Has these successfully combatted against enshittification entirely? Which places has this been successful? | | |
| ▲ | Avicebron 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | What are you talking about, these haven't even been tried because the corporate lobbyists know they work.. | | |
| ▲ | colesantiago 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > What are you talking about, these haven't even been tried because the corporate lobbyists know they work.. So what are you going to do about this? Why not try them? I don't know what you are on about but we want solutions not complaining about 'corporate lobbyists' and other conspiracy theories. | | |
| ▲ | Avicebron 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Ah yes, citizens united, the great conspiracy theory. Yikes, I can at best assume this is a shill account here to FUD for the tasty boots. |
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| ▲ | marginalia_nu 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The solution is mostly not to go public. Valve is a good example of this. Do well enough that you don't need outside investors, or if you take on outside investors select them carefully and ensure they don't expect an IPO. |
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| ▲ | colesantiago 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Valve is a bad example. For game developers, they are a nearing close to a monopoly with Steam, anything PC and for distribution has to go through them and they take a cut, any other places aren't as effective. Valve has no real competitors or competition. Unless Valve faces intense competition to change, enshittification will be inevitable since they know nobody can really challenge them. This is regardless of self or outside funding or no plans to IPO. | | |
| ▲ | marginalia_nu an hour ago | parent [-] | | Eh they do have competition, from e.g. Epic and Battle.Net and what have you, it's just that their competition is public and universally worse off for it. Their competition is beholden to quarterly reports, and can't do the sort of long term plays that would be needed to compete effectively with a company like Valve, which isn't beholden to quarterly reports. Valve doesn't need to enshittify because they aren't subject to shareholders pressuring them increase the profit. As a private company that's pretty much printing money, they don't need to do anything... which has largely been their entire strategy. What would Gabe even do with even more profits, buy a third and fourth yacht? |
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