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▲ zkmon 2 days ago

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▲dang 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Can you please not cross into personal attack? I'm sure you didn't mean your comment that way, but when you speak in the second person ("you") and get judgmental and even aggressive with your language, that's how it's going to come across whether you mean it to or not.

It's particularly bad when someone is just cheerfully sharing a fun project. Having a cement truck drive up and dump a load of denunciatory scolding is no one's idea of a fun thread. Please make your substantive points without any of this. It would be good to review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html as well.

Edit: you've unfortunately been doing this repeatedly. Can you please take a look at https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html and https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stop posting like this to Hacker News?

It's clear that you have strong feelings on some (very) general issues, and you have good reasons for that. But picking on other people, especially for something as personal as how they choose to garden, is not an ok way to express yourself on this site.

▲hatthew 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree with the sentiment that the human aspect of gardening can be fun, and personally I would not want to automate my own plant maintenance. But on the other hand, perhaps the author finds automation fun. Who are we to decide how they should do their own garden?

▲ygouzerh 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why not? OP seems to enjoy it. Everyone have the right to "tend their own garden" as they want.

Let people have some fun, it's not like he is pushing people to abandon manually taking care of a garden.

▲QuantumNomad_ 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Let other humans of your family also take part in it.

Not everyone wants to take care of other people’s plants. Maybe he already tried to involve his kids and it turned out they were just not interested.

▲zkmon 2 days ago | parent [-]

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▲ssl-3 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I have a couple of questions.

When did this person's hobby become your property to cast your whims upon?

If you succeed at proving that they're incompetent, incapable, just holding it wrong, or whatever: Then what? How would this finding improve anyone's situation -- at all, anywhere?

▲zkmon 2 days ago | parent [-]

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▲LeafItAlone 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

This is a super weird argument you are making. I’m not sure you’ve been part of a family or community with people of different likes or dislikes. Or maybe just want to argue about something do you choose this thread to go down. I suggest you abandon it.

My partner would say the plants in our household are mine, because I am responsible for them and they want no part in our responsibility of dealing with their care.

▲skrebbel 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Zeurpiet

▲nehal3m 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Jeez, this person is just combining their hobbies into something they apparently think is fun and you’re resting the whole world on their shoulders. Relax.

▲paganel 2 days ago | parent [-]

Because the OP is just dehumanising some basic, primary stuff, it's like telling someone to not sh*t in public because in so doing it also casts a bad light on us, people who happen to be watching him because we just happen to share the same sidewalk.

I don't want to be part of a world where people invaded by AI psychosis have turned a basic human thing like gardening into this AI-monstrosity.

▲nehal3m 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Let’s say they just set up some sensors and automation based on regular algorithms or something like Home Assistant, would that pass muster to you? As in ‘hey look at this, I hacked some plants!’? This is just going one step further. You’re free to not like AI (I’m reluctant myself) but this seems to me like someone bashing some stuff together for fun. In my opinion you’re overreacting.

▲CrimsonRain 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

People like you will complain when AI makes it unnecessary to use pesticides in farming. bUT mUh hUmaNizED FArmiNG?

▲paganel 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

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▲hardbass 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

This guy paganel literally doesn't think mathematics is necessary in any science or tech. Really don't know what to say to that.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50451025

▲paganel a day ago | parent [-]

Had you read more on what I've read on this forum (at least in the last 7-8 years) you would have known that I'm a strong Ellul fan, so, by all definitions, not in awe with scientism. More to the point, I would say that guys like Ellul have been proven more right than wrong, especially in our current AI-obsessed times.

▲hardbass 20 hours ago | parent [-]

You use words you don't know the meaning of. Nothing we talked about as anything to do with scientism. You literally don't know what mathematics is used for lmfao, you're one to make big claims to me about philosophy when you blatantly admitted you literally don't know what mathematics is used for.

▲harveynick 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just a hint, but maybe try reading the third paragraph of the actual post?

…and maybe stop yucking other people’s yums?

▲Mashimo 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Why not? Why do you keep your family members away from your fantastic project?

Kids these days want to play on their sega and listen to hip hop.

▲deanputney 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But how else would he know the cat pissed in it?

▲zkmon 2 days ago | parent [-]

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▲hardbass 2 days ago | parent [-]

Whats wrong with sensors and data analysis? Sounds like a good small scale project to start with the subject. Do you think sensors and data are only used for "evil megatech"?

▲zkmon 2 days ago | parent [-]

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▲dang 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Please stop.

▲hardbass 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

What do you think sensors are used for? Answer with explicit examples.

▲kakacik 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Come on, I am the last guy to defend AIs but the idea that there is only 1 proper way to do private things like gardening (your way of course) and others should be immediately attacked is... childish at best. You can certainly do better with less toxic words while your comment still says the same.

I for example detest gardening. Spent half of my childhood tending to various practical plants for eating in gardens, centrally planned communism I grew up in couldn't even reliably feed its people. But I love nature, forests, mountains, wilderness. I feel 0 reasons to create a mini plastic artificial version of it around my home, not when I have big wild forest at my doorstep, being at foothills of one mountain range and having heart of European alps in less than 1h drive (ie yesterday hopped to Chamonix in France to check few things and came back).

You gardening people look foolish to me - that massive amount of saved time (and money) means hiking, climbing, via ferratas or skiing / ski alpinism instead, alone or with kids - much better for bonding. While missing 0 of that nature contact. Yet its fine, you do you and I do me, no need punch down on anybody.