Sorry but just because IP has somehow become the current "thing" on the self-described 'left' is not going to convince me that corporate IP & knowledge restriction is actually a good thing and elsevier are the good guys.

> exponentially increasing the cost of hosting

We're on a technical forum, everyone knows the cost of hosting plaintext and what an exponential is.

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parineum a day ago | parent | next [-]

> the self-described 'left' is not going to convince me that corporate IP & knowledge restriction is actually a good thing

It just goes to show how fluid people's beliefs can be when they have identified a "bad guy". Everything they do is wrong, even when it aligns with their ethos.

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georgemcbay a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> not going to convince me that corporate IP & knowledge restriction is actually a good thing and elsevier are the good guys.

multiple parties can be opposed to each other's goals with all of them still being "bad guys".

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qlte a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Weird to turn this into a left/right "thing" based on flimsy assumptions after an election that demonstrated opposition to AI cuts across the political spectrum despite what e/acc types in a bubble on X might believe.

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		I'm on the left and I am not an accelerationist. I think the intellectual property theft justification is a bad one for opposing AI and a surprising one to hear from corners of the internet I inhabit. All of my objections would apply equally to an AI trained from permissibly licensed material. I suspect it is the result of people trying to reconcile disliking something they think isn't capable (or can't admit otherwise) so they have to come up with a capability-independent reason to dislike (climate, IP theft) that doesn’t have to concede that the technology is impressive.

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voidhorse 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Whenever people get their undies in a bundle about this argument I'm amazed at how oblivious of power differentials they are.

There is a difference between a story in which a robin hood liberated knowledge and freely, without any caveats or exchange, delivers it to the masses (think Aaron Swartz) and a story in which a power hungry empire systematically scoops up all the world's resources and decides to permit the masses access so long as they exchange (at a premium) other resources the empire needs to continually solidify its position.

If you don't see how these are different I don't know what to tell you. People making IP theft arguments are more disgruntled about the massive power imbalance between, say, a massive corporation, and a small time creator who can barely even earn a subsistence off their work in the first place, and the former taking from the latter in impunity.

The left rightly sees it as unfair because it is a power imbalance that leads to asymmetrical power of exchange. The companies get the power to continue to extract data from you, all you get is the privilege to then pay them for it.

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mlcrypto a day ago | parent | prev [-]

The so called progressives have actually been the ones opposed to progress throughout history. If they had their way we would all be frozen in time, entitled to our 1960s education & career