But you’re still in for a ton of pain if you want to run them headless right?

They desperately need to fix that.

It was pretty fast to get it set up. It could be better for sure, as it's not a first class concept the same way that it is in linux, but an hour of google search ai mode will get you where you need to go.

	▲	MBCook 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I know you can set it up to make it seem to work, but from what I’ve seen people say over and over, it will eventually end up asking you some question through a dialog box. And you will have no idea that’s going on other than all work stops. And the machine seems locked up or something until you connect a display and find out it wants you to click OK. It SHOULD be totally possible. But it fights you.

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mingus88 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How so?

	▲	MBCook 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		MacOS is a desktop OS. You really REALLY need to treat it like one. Lots of things pop up and can’t be dismissed any other way than though mouse/keyboard on the display. OS updated and wants to tell you it worked? No command line way to get rid of that. Program wants to do something and one of those system security prompts pops up (“BBEdit wants to access your Documents folder”)? Same problem. You can set it to auto login and auto update and grant permissions and everything. And then, one day, it will stop responding and you’ll have to hook it up and log in to see some pointless dialog that just wanted someone to click “OK”. And until you do no work gets done.