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▲ DoctorOW an hour ago

American here, in practice no. They are generally only the upper bound for dense neighborhood streets, throughout most other roadways you will be considered a poor driver if you go lower than the speed limit.

▲0x1ch an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The city of Tacoma, WA recently implemented new ALPR ticketing systems to enforce speed limits in northern Tacoma. They received so many hits, they had to build out a new system akin to a lottery for sending ticket / infraction notices.

To me, that seems like the city is entrapping its citizens to make up for a lack of revenue, when the data clearly shows the speed limit should probably be adjusted. But no, they move to develop a lottery system to send the infractions.

▲hatthew 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> the data clearly shows the speed limit should probably be adjusted

The problem is a cultural one. Most people interpret a speed limit of N as "I should go N+10" (or something like that). If we remove speed limits, the majority of people would end up driving at unsafe speeds. People will always break speed limits unless they are set at that unsafe level.

▲cowgoesmoo 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think that's true. When I was in Montana, where the limit is 80mph on freeways, there were very few people going faster than the limit.

▲bombcar 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not true people drive what they feel the safe limit of the road to be. You can easily devise a road that has 55 mile an hour speed limit and no one will go over 35.

▲dmitrygr 10 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> If we remove speed limits, the majority of people would end up driving at unsafe speeds.

[[citation needed]]

▲bombcar 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

I mean, isn’t that the idea? That people will be bad unless you give them citations?

▲bryanlarsen 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Speed limit cameras are highly effective at slowing cars down. They were recently removed in Ontario, and the average road speed increased substantially. The pedestrian death counts spiked in both Toronto and Ottawa this year. This is likely not a coincidence.

▲0x1ch 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

But did Toronto and Ottawa have to develop a lottery system to enforce the new systems due to capacity issues? Over the course of a month, it was over 400k infractions captured... 40MPH road.

The only reason for the speed to trend downwards is the increasing threat of a ticket from an automated system that cannot be reasoned with. A real cop generally isn't going to ticket me for going 5, maybe even 10 over a posted 40MPH zone unless they fished me for something else during the the stop. Flow of traffic is everything.

▲bryanlarsen 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

Almost all of the cameras were in front of school zones. 10 mph over in a school zone would definitely result in a ticket here. 5mph likely wouldn't, but the speed cameras didn't issue for 5 over either.

The cameras in Ontario issued an order of magnitude fewer tickets than yours. The highest volume cameras issued about 100 a day.

▲0x1ch 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yeah, 10mph over in a school zone is absurd. The issue I'm referring to are literally TWO speed cameras on common city corridors, non school zones.

The lottery system they're building to support the capacity issue is going to calculate weights based on the most egregious speeders, which I guess is nice...

▲seanmcdirmid 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

25 mph limits abound in Seattle and hardly anyone bothers with following them. The only way they are going to ever enforce that is with speed cameras since we also don't have enough police to even deal with violent crime, let alone with traffic violations.

▲rizzom5000 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Considered a poor driver, and you can be ticketed for impeding traffic. I'd guess you are also more likely to undergo a field sobriety test if and when that time comes.

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▲readthenotes1 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Where I live the major strode has a 45 mph speed limit and during most times of the day we only get to 35 mph but people make up for it by running the red light