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▲ bmenrigh 3 hours ago

The worst thing about consumer (AM5) Zen4 and Zen5 is the I/O die chiplet and memory controller on it. I've heard they're finally going to ship a new I/O chiplet in Zen6 on a much smaller node. Their existing AM5 Zen4/5 memory controller when using both memory channels is terrible. Extremely hard or impossible to get above 3600 MT/s.

Of all the things I'm looking forward to on Zen6, an improved memory controller is at the top of the list.

Edit: and yes, others may say the paltry few PCIE 5.0 lanes is the worst thing about AM5, but that doesn't affect my usage much, and unfortunately I think that's a limitation of AM5 itself rather than the I/O chiplet.

▲eyegor 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's not too hard to get above 3600 MT/s (I assume what you actually want is to get the uclk above 1800) if you bump the soc voltage, but at default voltages there's no chance. Most people overclocking don't touch the soc rail. I've done it on a few zen4 parts and supposedly there are golden samples that go above 1800 without major soc voltage increases but I've never seen evidence of one. And even with major voltage increases the highest you can really achieve is like 2000 on the uclk which is almost a pointless change in memory bandwidth when ddr5 is like +60% without any shenanigans.

▲bmenrigh an hour ago | parent [-]

I'm talking about with 4 sticks, not 2.

I've never gotten 4 sticks to pass training, no matter what I change. This is a well-known limitation. Some people, with newer AGESA on certain motherboards, have been able to get 4 sticks above 3600 MT/s but it's not possible for most people, and questionably stable even for those that have succeeded.

▲papascrubs an hour ago | parent [-]

I've had no issues on my ASRock X870E Taichi from the very beginning. I'm running four 24 gig sticks at 6000 MT/s (Corsair, all bought before the crazy). I didn't realize people were having this many issues. These are on the certified lists from the manufacturer of the motherboard. Never had a problem. They've been working through multiple AGESA updates / multiple BIOS updates without a hitch.

▲wmf 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

(AM4 was 3600 MT/s; AM5 is 6000 MT/s.)

▲Covzire 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Reported even on AM5, you can only get 6000 Mt/s with 2 sticks, attempting to run all 4 slots on most boards won't work unless you slow them down to base JEDEC speeds.

▲mldbk 37 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

4 x 32GB G.Skill Flare 6000CL30 are running on Asus TUF B650E with 6000CL34

▲semi-extrinsic an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can confirm, had this issue on an ASRock DeskMeet X600.

▲papascrubs 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Really? I'm running 4x 24GB sticks at 6000 with no issues. These were on the certified list for the motherboard.

https://valid.cpuid.com/sdyce7k2

▲GoofGarage 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Agreed, this is likely going to change the landscape for people ekeing everything out of an AMD-based HEDT.

To take full advantage of it, folks likely will want A) a new motherboard with likely a new chipset to support the higher frequencies and B) <GULP> higher frequency DDR5.

I’d love more memory bandwidth with the limited 2-channels I have, but the 2x48GB (96GB) of “tuner memory” I bought in February 2025 I’m not even sure is manufactured anymore. I paid $440 back then, and my understanding is it’s not produced now, and commands $2500 - $3000 on the second-hand market.