it's about dynamic tension. we as engineers should want to do things the right way even if it means spending infinite money and never releasing. the corporate side should want to do things the wrong way because it's cheap and gets to market faster. we should argue with one another til we're blue in the face about it every day, and the actual thing that gets delivered should exist at that perfect little goldilocks zone in the middle where both sides hate it and blame the other for its shortcomings.

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rapind 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Widespread misconception. There are plenty of product managers / executives who also want quality and plenty of engineers who want to ship. I'd wager most engineers would rather ship and get their creation in front of users than spend eternity perfecting it.

	▲	ratelimitsteve 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		of course we can never speak of an entire population in absolutes, only tendencies, but if you're going to argue against the tendency i'd like to see a bit more depth to the argument than "I'd wager". I also don't think my overall point suffers at all if you substitute "engineers" with "some people" and "corporate side" with "other people", so i'm going to politely request that we do that going forward so we can address the substance of the discussion rather than the makeup of the two sides of it.