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▲ bscphil 44 minutes ago

Deepseek is good enough for me that I use it for everything cost sensitive. I tend to switch to Google's models for world knowledge, planning, and complicated bugs that Deepseek gets stuck on. Argon is also a great writer in my experience, hopefully Carbon is the same. Seems like RL for code generation ruins most model's communication abilities. V4.1 Flash 1017 is a significant step back from the previous Deepseek model in that respect, despite being a noticeably better coder.

▲altmanaltman 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Seems like RL for code generation ruins most model's communication abilities.

Just like human beings