I wonder why my consumer Gemini app has Argon and 3.8 flash with a pro plan but so many people here don't have that.

Is the issue that consumers get it sooner or is the roll out random or locked to some other factor?

mattlondon 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I have Carbon in my consumer Gemini too. I have a Google drive storage upgrade that I pay for that I assume is bundled with it - it's the only thing I can think of as I've certainly not gone out of my way to do anything special to get access (and so far, it is free for me to access it this way)

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antonvs an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

In one case I had to upgrade my Antigravity GUI to see new models, I guess because of an API change.

At the same time, the CLI saw the new models without any change. Possibly that was just because my CLI install was newer than the GUI one. (Edit: oh, it's because my CLI autoupdates. Autoupdates for the GUI on Linux in an AppImage is... messy.)

Edit: But in this case:

> Gemini 4 Carbon is available via the API in Google AI Studio and Gemini for business for all paying developers and enterprises

I.e. Seems to be API only right now.

	▲	p_l 34 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I found out when I opened Gemini app on phone and it showed Carbon Medium as default