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▲ alfyboy 4 hours ago

Wish they would add Linux support. What is the best option for Linux?

▲throwa356262 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Bitwig.

It is cheaper, supports Linux and I start to think it is also the better DAW.

It's on flathub so you can try it on any distro and see if you like it.

▲liljacob 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I really liked the DAW itself, but how does it handle VST's? I tried setting my studio up on Linux with Bitwig a while ago and it was causing me a lot of pain and I gave up. Ableton is the only reason I still keep a dual-boot.

▲LukaD 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

VSTs work perfectly fine in Bitwig. Whether a plugin supports linux is a different question though. I've tried to run windows VSTs via yabridge under linux but that was barely usable.

▲liljacob 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, I remember trying to set up Omnisphere and it just wouldn't work for me. So my issues were related to windows VST's. I used Wine and yabridge, which did install them but they weren't usable.

▲mestelan 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Was that some time ago? I find Yabridge to work reliably on numerous plugins.

▲dyzone 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I didn't face any VST related issues on linux.

▲multisport 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

+1 bitwig. It's so fun

▲melvinroest 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

+2 as a beginner in Ableton and Bitwig, I'm a bigger fan of Bitwig.

▲dominotw 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Best for hobbyist goofing around. Which is me ( and pbly most ppl here)

▲easyThrowaway 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ironically they added linux support... for Live Push 3. It runs an headless x86 version of the desktop suite ported to linux.

There are even projects like this that let you restore the missing parts and use it elsewhere, but it's kinda buggy: https://github.com/velkajelka/linux-native-ableton

▲ta988 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Bitwig is the closest (and in many ways superior)

▲gglitch an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Don't forget Renoise! It's proprietary, but Linux is a first-class build, it's inexpensive, and it's extraordinarily powerful and flexible for the right kind of mind/workflow.

▲dyzone 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's also this project:

https://github.com/shibco/ableton-linux

They have a custom wine version that is built specifically to fix ableton issues on linux. I haven't tried this myself but I have heard good things about it on their discord.

▲aframemodular 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Studio One has Linux support for non-open source and it's been around for longer than Bitwig.

For open source, Ardour but yeah...

▲criddell 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are Linux audio drivers good enough? At one point they were not reliable enough from a timing perspective but I have no idea if that's been fixed or not.

▲lewispollard 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Depends what you mean by audio drivers, if you mean the audio server, Jack has always been good for pro audio, and pipewire (the modern default) can be configured to be good too with the right packages. In terms of timing (latency you mean?) I have zero complaints using Jack via pipewire on a proper audio interface.

If you mean device drivers, it can be a bit hit or miss, generally stuff works but for example I have an SSL audio interface and while the audio works, it's missing a lot of the configuration options that the Windows drivers give you around customisable audio routing.

▲criddell 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> latency you mean?

Maybe timing is the wrong word. Latency is definitely a related concern.

If something needs to fire every 1209 ms then it can't get fired in 1232 ms this time and then 1198 ms next time. Maybe a better term would be clock jitter or drift?

As I understand it, a DAW needs something close to a RTOS.

▲MrDrMcCoy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Linux can run specific apps with realtime priority since 6.12. Just gotta configure your audio stack to run that way.

▲lewispollard an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Ah yes, I understand - yes as the other comment says, kernel supports it but most distros aren't configured that way out of the box, but it's pretty simple in most of them - on Arch you install the `realtime-privileges` package and add your user to the `realtime` group, the audio server and DAW software takes it from there.

▲ivanjermakov 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

pipewire-jack adapter is good enough for me to use PC as a guitar pedal with guitarix and maudio sound interface.

You might need to tweak kernel settings for better latency https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Professional_audio#Optimizi...

▲MrDrMcCoy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Tracktion has always appealed to me.

▲voidnullvalue 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Reaper

▲tosti 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Ardour

▲vindex10 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I like Ardour, but when choosing btw Ardour and Reaper - if you work with many VSTs or just exploring, this may be an interesting read: https://ardour.org/plugins-in-process.html

all plugins in Ardour run in the app's process, so if one crashed - you might lose the project.

But UX for MIDI editing in Ardour is so much nicer than Reaper's to my taste.