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▲ timoth3y 11 hours ago

My larger concern is that this constant surveillance is actually making children better prepared for the world they will have to live in as adults.

I find the the constant surveillance of our online, and increasingly of our offline, lives infuriating and push back when I can.

Twenty years from now perhaps it will all be accepted as perfectly normal, and I'll be an old man yelling at clouds.

▲graemep 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There has already been a huge cultural shift.

I am old enough to remember the fall of the Berlin Wall. At the time people in the west were shocked at the level of surveillance that we found had been going on in East Germany.

Now we accept a greater level of surveillance as normal for ourselves.

▲notnullorvoid 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not making them better prepared for it at all. Surveillance from parents is about providing safety for the child, if the child grows up confusing surveillance with a sense of safety that's the opposite of prepared.

▲bemtevi 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Twenty years ago, the level of tracking we have today already would have seemed idiotic. But we've accepted it for convenience, not through choice but through the arms race of tech companies offering "free" services in exchange for convenience which in turn gives its users a temporary boost in their productivity.

I've come to the conclusion that it is primarily our instinct that drives this process and we cannot control it, except by refusing the tech altogether.

▲lotsofpulp 11 hours ago | parent [-]

An individual refusing the tech simply disadvantages them against others and the state. Also, individuals who used to be railroaded by those who were more powerful gained the power to expose it with the advent of technology.

However, now that video editing is cheap and easy, perhaps the individual loses this advantage since one video recording might just be one version of the truth and you need more recorded angles/versions that prove consistency.

▲bemtevi 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> An individual refusing the tech simply disadvantages them against others and the state. Also, individuals who used to be railroaded by those who were more powerful gained the power expose it with the advent of technology.

But how long will the advantage of that exposure last when technology envelops us all and we have no recourse?