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▲ NSUserDefaults 4 hours ago

Not new to 13 but I love Ableton's clean UI. Similar to Blender, it's how all creative apps (and systems!) should do it.

▲maciejzj 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I love that it is not only clean and usable, but also they somehow managed to make it cool in a very minimalist and utilitarian way. It is like a digital version of a sleek physical synth with very raw industrial design. Reminds me of how NAD amplifiers look ugly-beautiful with their greyish chases.

▲crucialfelix an hour ago | parent [-]

It's because they grew up playing with Fischer Technik.

▲nprz 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They really do a good job especially considering how much complexity is contained within Ableton.

▲tuzemec 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Dunno... but coming from Studio One, I find Ableton’s interface very off-putting and ugly.

Yeah, I know... personal taste :)

▲hmokiguess 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I actually much prefer FL Studio UI over Ableton's

▲dyzone 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Funny! I think fl studio ui is the worst, ableton is better than fl, and bitwig much better than both. I guess it really is just personal preference or maybe we mistake familiarity for ergonomics because we build muscle memory for tools and then if we try anything else, it'll obviously feel worse because we don't know how it works.

▲hmokiguess an hour ago | parent [-]

> I guess it really is just personal preference or maybe we mistake familiarity for ergonomics

These are mutually exclusive the way I see it, and I would argue that personal preference is the right one.

I tried learning Ableton but didn't find joy in it, I think it's because FL Studio has closer origins to the music tracker days whereas Ableton avoided that.

I would say they both offer different mental modes that are orthogonal to one another

▲vectordust 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Agreed, it's really intuitive (or it was for me). I feel like it has just the right learning curve, it just makes sense.

▲fishfasell 3 hours ago | parent [-]

For me it was through comparison I realized this. I used some other DAWs and found Ableton to just make sense. They jam so much into a simple UI that it all just makes sense.

▲vectordust 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Same. To be honest I tried using FL Studio (back when it was "Fruity Loops") and it never fully clicked with me. Live immediately made sense, it's been home ever since.

▲dyzone 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Fl studio browser was the biggest turnoff for me.

▲jleehn 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

100% agreed, gold standard in creative software design

▲piva00 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I moved from Ableton Live to Bitwig and found Bitwig's interface even more intuitive than Live's. There are some idiosyncrasies in Live's UI that aren't hard to learn but definitely non-intuitive, in my opinion Bitwig has a more polished experience for interaction/intuitiveness.

▲jleehn 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

Would you mind describing an example?