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▲ justauserid 11 hours ago

WFH wasn't emotionally or even physically good for me. Please understand that WFH is not everyone's cup of tea before attacking and downvoting which often happens on forums because people assume that someone saying "WFH isn't for me" means they are opposing WFH. I am not. My last company was 100% remote. It really affected me badly. My interactions (amount, wish to engage, motivation etc), mannerisms started changing. Yes, one can try to supplement human interactions to some extent (groups, hobbies etc) but it's not organic and it's not the same (besides it absolutely doesn't work for everyone). After those ~4 years ended (a bit more considering COVID time at the workplace before that) I tried freelancing for a bit. But only now when I am just trying things on my own, I started going to cafes and co-working spaces to work, or just do things on my laptop there, even for 1-2 hours, and that has helped a lot. I so much feel better, I can decisively do more than at home. I hope I had started doing that when I was already working at my last place. I might not have grown this detached and distanced from the inudstry and work. I might not have sort of lost a few years of my life. I am again gearing up to find full time work and this time I shall try my best to get one in some office, or office like space, somewhere. I really do not want to do WFH anymore. Though I see lot of people benefit from it and use it quite effectively. I think a fantastic balance would be a hybrid approach but I believe employees should just given the option to pick from hybrid, WFH, WFO and the employers ought to make that happen. Because every individual and their needs and wishes are quite unique in this regards.

▲dozerly 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

People are extremely sensitive to anti wfh because it threatens their ability to work from wherever they want.

Having a community of coworkers you see everyday and build relationships with is healthy for humans. Spending 40 hours a week in a room by yourself with only digital interaction, surprisingly, is not great for many people.

▲Forgeties79 11 hours ago | parent [-]

As a parent the 40hr thing isn’t reality though. I get to see my kids more when I wfh.

Different people need different things at the end of the day. The reason wfh people are more intense about it is because wfh jobs are less common than in-office and most companies are actively trying to drive all of us back into offices after so many of us finally got what worked better for us. It’s hard to be sympathetic to the in-office fans in this environment. Doesn’t mean we don’t know they exist in large numbers or don’t want them to work the way they want.

▲Imustaskforhelp 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I started going to cafes and co-working spaces to work, or just do things on my laptop there, even for 1-2 hours, and that has helped a lot. I so much feel better, I can decisively do more than at home.

This is the ideal way too imo. Remote has many advantages but I also understand the disadvantages that it has and an approach like this feels like the right balance/tradeoff to me.

We are also not animals built out for isolation. Work still plays a significant role in our meaning to life given that we do it for such long streches of time and isolation within work can have some detrimental effects.

There might be some more logic to it as well. For how long work has ever been done, it was done in the frequents of 1-2 hours, break, 1-2 hours and so on. This is a really good video relating to how work got streched from this to a monotonous 8 hour time or even more.

I think that within pure office, you are unable to really toggle your brain off from work. It is a single strech of long period of time that you are at work. Because if you could tune out then you would've preferred to move back to home and relax. It is very hard to relax within the hours of job and our human body is strictly not built for such levels of stress and endurance at a prolonged period. We need a lot more breaks which most work offices don't give as they see it as a method to "optimize" their employees productivity.

Remote does offer some pushback against it but suffers from the isolation aspect of it.

Hybrid as is your case, can help in providing the balance of work and some form of connection while at it.

I also feel sometimes that this is true but for libraries when studying as perhaps the same principle applies. Though, there is still some laziness exerted in going to the library, I feel as if over the long term, the benefits of going to library might outweigh the costs and that over a long term, it might induce me more net stress not going to library.

Glad that you have found the proper approach to things and I agree with the last paragraph that the employer should be accomodating to all because even from a capitalist perspective, it can allow their employees to actually be on the path to their maximum value and a more happy workforce can be a good thing in general which pays a lot of dividends over a long term.

[0]: https://hackertube.org/watch/hvk_XylEmLo

▲autoexec 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> We are also not animals built out for isolation.

We probably shouldn't be getting all our socialization at work either. People with healthy active social lives outside of work will probably handle work from home a lot better. There are certain situations where working with others in person is actually better for productivity and that's fine, but when someone's needs as a social animal aren't being met unless they have to go into an office there's likely already something pretty unhealthy going on. It might be too many hours spent working, or a job that's too stressful or demanding, or soul crushing, but I'd be looking for a solution that isn't "lock me in a cage for 8-10 hours a day with a bunch of other trapped workers" first.

▲thefz 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> In person wasn't emotionally or even physically good for me. Please understand that in person is not everyone's cup of tea before attacking and downvoting which often happens on forums because people assume that someone saying "In person isn't for me" means they are opposing in person. I am not. My last company was 100% in office.

See? I honestly don't care about colleagues outside what we have to do together. If you are down for the divorce or sad that you found cigs in your daughter's backpack, it's all noise for me. I have friends outside the office and do not wish to make more inside. Please don't spam me with your life, I have no kids and do not care about your eldest's soccer results. I want to do what I am paid for, peacefully, then leave.