I think this sums up the management-owner fantasy/middle-management fear:

Once they can tell the computer/slave what to do, what'll they need us for?

My advice is to relax: If there's no work, whatever companies remain better paying so much taxes that everybody can live like their council/town mayor/president, or the humans will be literally eating the rich.

Just try to love where you live and be good friends with your neighbours when it happens, and don't be one of the last people working/defending work.

In any event, I suspect AI could be still a long way off of that, despite the fact quite suddenly a lot more human beings can tell a computer what to do. You might feel differently, but I promise your job isn't representative of "most" people who work from home: You have no idea what the demographics of at-home workers are.

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slopinthebag 11 hours ago | parent [-]

people are so funny, they think managers will use ai to replace employees. employees will replace the managers with ai.

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tobyhinloopen 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Have you had AI manage anything? They have a terrible long-term planning ability. They appear to be able to plan ahead, but once tested they only fight fires and sit idle when everything is okay.

Even if LLMs could be capable managers, today out-of-the-box, they’re not.

	▲	autoexec 10 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> Have you had AI manage anything? They have a terrible long-term planning ability. Even if LLMs could be capable managers, today out-of-the-box, they’re not. This is pretty much the case for just about all jobs. AI, right now, sucks. I don't think there's any field or job title where AI has replaced all the human workers. The place I see it most in the wild are those useless AI chatbots on websites, and even there humans are still working in those positions (usually past the initial AI filter). AI is not fit to replace actual workers because it isn't "intelligent" enough to handle even the most basic and remedial jobs literal children perform. That's why there are still humans taking drive-thru orders, even after companies with billions of dollars to spend have tried to use AI to get rid of them all. That could always change though, and by the time AI can understand "I want a #1 and a coke" well enough to replace all drive-thru order takers, AI good enough to replace a lot of mangers won't be very far behind. Depending on the quality of the manager anyway... I've had some managers who were good enough that I doubt AI will ever be good enough to do better, but I've also had managers who were so bad they probably could have already been effectively replaced by a complicated enough spreadsheet.
	▲	geocar 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		> Even if LLMs could be capable managers, today out-of-the-box, they’re not. Out-of-the-box I think most humans are bad at nearly everything. > Have you had AI manage anything? I had perl scripts manage everything: The idea of software running a company is not even slightly far-fetched. What's new is if you actually know how the business works, you can absolutely tell a computer how to do it. And that is important, because it means if you are struggling to get the AI to manage anything, I have to tell you that is a strong signal do not know what a manager does or should do.
	▲	slopinthebag 11 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		oh they won't be using ai for managing anything. people will be building their own businesses, without the pointless bureaucracy and management.

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geocar 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

i love that. Why code for a boss? What do you think they're going to do with the result that you can't do?

especially now

	▲	slopinthebag 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		exactly. i foresee a humongous rise in smaller business, without the corporate bureaucracy, without the pointless PM's and managers and all that bs. fuck the c class, we're going to be building things ourselves.