> Of course, they targeted civilians in all of the above countries.

I haven't dug into it deeply, but I was under the impression that most of the Iranian targets were US bases and US-owned oil fields/energy infrastructure, with relatively few domestic civilian interests harmed. Am I mistaken?

I doubt the public in any country cares much about Iran's blockade, given that the US has "counter-blockaded" and claimed ownership and control of the stait. Iran was attacked first, then sneak attacked during negotiations, and has maintained a coherent and consistent policy during negotiations. Common people are sympathetic and view them as the underdog.

> Third, they're Sunni, not exactly Iran's traditional allies.

Muslims are far less divided than Western policy-makers imagine IMO, most have solidarity WRT Palestine and broader Middle Eastern geopolitics regardless of sectarian affiliation. Iran has been mostly successful in tying their struggle to the issue of Israel/Palestine, especially with the recently-interested younger people in western countries who have less reflexive reaction against Iran.

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jst1fthsdys 2 days ago | parent [-]

The US started to host US military personnel in civilian hotels after Iran targeted US bases and they weren't safe to stay there.

So, in essence, the US used the civilians as human shields.

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spwa4 2 days ago | parent [-]

First, in many places (UAE for example, also Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Israel) they definitely did aim at civilians. For example, they aimed at civilian airport terminals in Israel and Saudi Arabia.

And for the military targets, it's just as accurate to say that Iran just doesn't have the technology to actually reliably aim for military forces and still fired at everything they could find, and this increased by a lot after it became clear almost none of their attacks on military targets actually landed. The result was explosives delivered in people's bedrooms.

From the published results, only 3 rockets/drones, out of tens of thousands, actually hit their targets. And one of those was ... people died so we don't criticize. But let's just say that the commander of those soldiers who died made a very suboptimal decision (hours) before they died.

The hits on civilians are despite those military bases targeted being hundreds of kilometers away from the civilians who died. One issue was that they used the same drones Russia is firing at Ukraine (some were Russian-made, even) and flew as low as possible, without avoiding highrise buildings on the flight path. They even hit civilians in Iran.

And can I just add: THIS you consider the US using human shields, but Iran putting a school of minority children on a military base without so much as a sign isn't using human shields? WTF.

	▲	jst1fthsdys a day ago \| parent [-]
		Israel and the KSA have been shipping arms via their so called civilian airports. > none of their attacks on military targets actually landed. That they bothered to tell you about. They devastated the US bases so much the US can't operate out of them. You have to be a fool if you think only 3 rockets hit their targets. I'm not going to bother addressing the other parts. You are just repeating some mixture of incoherent propaganda.