In case you're unaware, this is for the max setting. The (recommmended) high setting uses only 80k tokens.

lifeisloving an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Its still prohibitively expensive, and models 5% the cost are faster and get the job done just as well (for the average person's workflow).

I really don't get the value proposition of these massive models, seems like they're just loss leaders simply to say you're the in the top 3. There's not much use cases outside of niche academic research (and even then I question the need). They mostly function as marketing tools, like a casino that offers high roller accommodations.

People will say "cyber" but companies didnt want to spend on security before, not sure why they would all of a sudden be compelled to spend even more.

	▲	svachalek 24 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Not everyone is writing CRUD business apps and personal use software. Pretty much any model can do those now. The frontier is for doing things those models struggle with. Even in vibe coding a simple video game the difference in results between an open source model, the previous frontier model, and the current model is pretty huge. Security is mandatory now in a way that it wasn't, now that AI has eliminated the skill barrier to hacking.
	▲	artemisart 21 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		People looking at frontier models release are not the average person, and let's say that you pay $150 with Fable to save $1000, it's much more interesting than using $10 with a cheap model to save even $500. Scale numbers to whatever suits you.
	▲	kolinko 25 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Well for tasks that can be done with another model you just use another model.

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persedes an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

^ and even at medium it is juuuust outside their "Most attractive quadrant"