I have spent a lot of time in countries with strong male community even to this day: cafe culture where the menfolk of the town meet daily, sometimes for hours. I speak the languages and can be a full participant.

As a man, I find those cultures just as vexsome as the cultures of isolation and anomie. Men talking one-on-one or up to three-four people have a good dynamic. But when men assemble into larger groups and a public male society, they inevitably talk about football, fucking women, toilet humor, and other inane things. Also, a pecking order is always established in large male groups, and men on this neurodivergence-heavy site are likely to be at the very bottom of it. Be careful what you wish for.

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jlos 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Basically agree with you, adding that you’re likely a better candidate for individualism.

Most men (most people) don’t do well as true individuals. They need the inane group cohesion.

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gib444 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Also, a pecking order is always established in large male groups, and men on this neurodivergence-heavy site are likely to be at the very bottom of it. Be careful what you wish for.

A $500,000 total comp engineer with a wife and a house in California set to retire at 50 vs a $60,000 bar tender in Ohio with a hotter wife and muscles. Who's higher in the chain? Genuine question

	▲	TFNA 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Now imagine a culture where neurodivergent but wealthy you has to regularly sit at a cafe table or attend religious observance with men who are overwhelmingly the latter type. Being ostracized or mocked daily would still sting in spite of your enviable wealth.
	▲	six_seven 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		In the chain of what??
	▲	watwut an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		If they are jealous, you.
	▲	dghlsakjg 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The mistake here is trying to stack rank people as if there is a universal ideal. Society is not a linear chain, its a multidimensional web. I - genuinely - do not aspire to either of these lives, although pieces of both appeal.