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▲ efields 2 hours ago

Specialty cut flower grower here. Backyard scale, but we're profitable and have received some grants so that means we have had a USDA relationship for a couple years. The rep I've talked to and am closest with is skeptical of agrivoltaics due to past dealings with solar companies (not sure what she means). There doesn't seem to be enough reliable public data to make it seem like the win-win-win we want it to be. In their mind, you're adding a non-ag industry to the land and that could have downstream consequences in a generation. Maybe you're scheming to get the land re-zoned for light industrial; I honestly have no idea what they're thinking, but they're averse toward it.

Most flowers in 7b don't want extreme sun. We use shade cloth frequently, so solar coverage would be fine and of course have the energy co-production. Cut flowers aren't harvested mechanically at our scale, so we wouldn't have to worry about tractor access.

Meanwhile, more and more food is produced under cover for a lot of good reasons. Polytunnels, glass houses. You might get some summer shade from solar but what about season extension at the beginning of spring/end of fall? Depending on your crop and location, that could mean 4-8 extra weeks a year. What if you do geothermal energy generation for the tunnel? Now you can grow through the winter and not need the same footprint as solar. That's more appealing to me.

Anyway, I'm forever mad at corn ethanol and we should at least replace all that with solar farms. That's probably the right place to start. But also, again, zoning...

▲fblp 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Would also love to hear more about your project!

▲Gibbon1 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Very conservatively solar produces 30-50 times are much energy per acre as corn ethanol. I think if you consider just the ethanol to mix with gas vs charging an electric car with solar it's a 100 times more.

Something around 2500W of solar can provide enough energy to drive an EV 12,000 miles a year.

When it comes to zoning. The state should require offices to install chargers for employees cars when the solar share of electricity generation is highest.

▲dzhiurgis 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Meanwhile, more and more food is produced under cover for a lot of good reasons.

(Disclaimer: I know nothing about farming)

I somewhat agree - dumping pesticides and fertilizer into the ground every year and then letting it pollute rivers is low-key insanity. But then you look at just how much farmland is out there and realize some crops just can't be put indoors, probably ever.

There are lots of variables for sure, but I do wonder how much more efficient indoor growing must get to overcome outdoor growing? Land value is vastly different between regions, so does labour, crop type, etc.

p.s. Tom Scotts recent video on strawberries was amazing - special mites to fend off other bugs and UVC light sanitizing was a bit of wow for me.

▲idiotsecant an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Completely off topic but I'm fascinated with this. How much acreage do you devote to this?

I've done hobbyist exotic (legal!) mushroom farming for a while, at a scale that is more than I could use but not like 100x what I could use. I've thought about selling but it seems like a lot of hassle doing the marketing and business parts of it.

How do you sell? Do you have a distributor that purchases product from you or is it a farmers market type deal?