This is an interesting musing but does not offer possible solutions. Men supporting men comes to my mind as an obvious category.

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everdrive 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think there are a few potential solutions.

- Currently, the dominant ideology is that there is a victim hierarchy, and if you're in the wrong group (ie, you're privileged) then your opinions and needs don't matter. Moving away from this sort of identitarianism would one important step.

- I think it's important to try to understand why male socialization has fallen apart. (statistically, yes, I'm sure a lot of you still socialize) It's clearly a gendered effect, and I'm genuinely not sure what a reasonable explanation would be. (your comment, men supporting men would play nicely here, although I'm not sure how we make that happen.)

	▲	Exoristos 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		To your first point, I am aware of the rhetoric, without having encountered it myself, but would be skeptical it amounts to "dominant ideology" or policy. To the second, I had more in mind male-centered institutions offering male-tailored solutions; perhaps funded, promoted, or helmed by men. I wasn't expecting those suffering, or the average man, to bear responsibility for solving men's issues.

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pojzon 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If we look at history of our spieces, we came down from a tree 5min ago.

We are in 95% still the same animal and 5% intelligent human.

Vast majority of all of our weird discussions is about us not accepting this fact.

In this case its:

1) Men are competing with each other for resources and women

2) Women only want strong resourceful men

3) Our only purpose was defined by first living cell being born - we have to sustain life

Outcome of the above is:

Nobody cares about men that dont succceed (which ofcourse will cause a lot of men depression).

	▲	Exoristos 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I spent my teen years in a rural community and observed, and formed, a lot of strong bonds with men. Back in the city, I still see examples of kindness and camaraderie among boys and men. So all I can say is my experience doesn't bear out what your point 1 is asserting. My own view of modern men's isolation is that it's a fairly recent pathology.
	▲	neglesaks 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The above are indeed simple, hard, physical facts of the matter that few wish to address. edit: typo