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▲ ecshafer 4 hours ago

Its funny, because the Digg migration is probably when Reddit started going down hill.

▲kenchan 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I specifically remember one commenter saying, "Look, we're not happy about what happened either but we have no where else to go. Now scoot over."

▲bhaak 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Was the Digg exodus the start of Reddit’s Eternal September?

▲ecshafer 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I think so. That was the first big shift from Programmers / IT / Nerds to rage comics if I remember right.

▲soulofmischief 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Reddit started showing signs of terminal illness in 2011 and spez since ran it into the ground along with CondeNast. 2015 was the death knell after the CEO, Ellen Pao, was featured at the top of /r/PunchableFaces, which then temporarily went private. Staff shakeup ensued.

At the time it was a massive conversation around whether reddit should have to host content its advertisers didn't agree with, except they had heavily contributed to killing off old forums whose free speech was not compromised by advertisers. This was part of a larger conversation about free speech protection online and right-to-platform which still ensues. Corporations frequently cite their own free speech interests while suppressing speech of individuals and organizations. The current organization of the web is just perverse and tenuous.

Hacker News is quite unique in that while it is an aggregator, I have never felt that staff moderation crossed over into censorship, even when I've been on the receiving side of it. The moment dang leaves and pg retires, it's over. Tom Howard might do OK for a while, but the reason HN, despite eternal September and growing amounts of negativity, spam and astroturfing, continues to be a fun place on the web is because Dan is the man and fully embodied Paul Graham's established foundational principles.

We all need to be thinking about what kind of internet we want our grandchildren and future society to inherit and start building today.

▲VLM 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Traditionally Tumblr was blamed for that in the late 2010s, although Digg is plausible. I think the sheer volume of Tumblr had more impact on Reddit than Digg ever could have, its a size thing.

A lot of Reddit problems were own-goals. Lets have a civil war over being a free speech or being a brutally censored speech site, I'm sure the civilians trapped in the middle will love the experience. Spoiler -> They did NOT.

But humans can always be replaced by bots if you're selling advertising views, LOL. HN doesn't sell ads (or at least none have ever gotten past my ad blocker) so there's fewer bots here so the decline due to bots is slower here.