| ▲ | remix2000 17 hours ago |
| Does AVIF carry the same patent risks as full/motion AV1? (I’m not saying I support the claims or not, I have no idea about their technical and let alone legal merit, just thinking that there are attempts at enforcement against sites streaming AV1 and whether choosing AV1 puts say my site at risk) |
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| ▲ | theandrewbailey 17 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Probably not. But if anyone ever decides to enforce patents over AV1 or AVIF, they will fight about every company in Big Tech and quite a bit of Hollywood: https://aomedia.org/about/members/ |
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| ▲ | remix2000 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | It’s actually shared patent pool with H265, most big tech companies already license it for the latter, there was some litigation with Snapchat I think regarding AV1. Royalties are for distribution, I assume, so posting AV1 video might be a no-no. I meant to ask if the ‘patented’ stuff is even used when encoding an image. (NB the codec is not patented, nobody claims that afaik, but rather it might be patent encumbered, as in it uses algorithm that might be patented as a part of its design) | | |
| ▲ | dannyw 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | So you still have to license it, and it’s not royalty free; if it’s the same patent pool as H265? I know I had to pay like $1.99 on my synology for H265 support, and likewise for “Advanced Media Extensions” on windows 10/11, although that may have changed. |
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| ▲ | chrismorgan 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yes. It’s just an AV1 container. Doesn’t even need to be limited to a single frame (just like GIF and APNG). |
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| ▲ | shmerl 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Hard to say, but possibly less since it's a still image, not a video, so it inherently corresponds only to a part of AV1. No need to worry about these risks for using it though. You can never say that no patent troll will surface tomorrow for literally anything. That's not a reason not to use things. |
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| ▲ | extra88 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | AVIF supports multiple frames. It's a good replacement for animated GIFs. | | |
| ▲ | shmerl 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't think you need a replacement for them besides actual proper video. |
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| ▲ | Dylan16807 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > You can never say that no patent troll will surface tomorrow for literally anything. Well I guess you can use 20+ year old standards when they exist. | | |
| ▲ | shmerl 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, but that's a pretty long time for image formats, so it defeats the point. |
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