Sounds to me like a lot of divisive American politics, as usual.

I have no problem with a community setting whatever acceptance criteria they like.

If the license did the same, I could see a case of being a bit of overzealousness.

I couldn't find if that was the issue, but if your problem is that the creator and the community have political opinions and don't like people with incompatible ones, then that's just society...

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hmokiguess 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> but if your problem is that the creator and the community have political opinions and don't like people with incompatible ones, then that's just society...

No, I am fine with incompatible views and I often seek them in order to grow. I do not enjoy echo chambers and I usually prefer and welcome disparate, including contrarian, opinions.

It's more like I don't want Ideology served with Programming Language, it feels like a distraction to me when I am in that mode. I usually consume Ideology under a different context, where I find it more productive and can contribute better to it.

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nchagnet 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I think you have a reasonable position here, so I understand where you come from.

I find this whole thread here interesting because until today I wasn't confronted by any of this, even though I joined the Discord and had a pleasant time (and will keep doing).

So I guess all I have to say on this is I don't think the "ideology" is that much served with the programming language. Yes I read that there's a code of conduct and that annoyed some people. But like I downloaded Gleam, I coded with it, I talked to people, and the thought police didn't knock on my door. So I guess what I mean is that it feels a little overblown.

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hmokiguess 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Thanks for understanding it, and yes not everyone draws the line at the same boundaries.

Once in a while I try to push my boundaries, but then again I like to choose where I do this. For this one, I prefer not to do it in a work adjacent environment with strangers on the internet.

That aside, the language sounds fun hope you create cool things with it!

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15155 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> I don't think the "ideology" is that much served with the programming language

Their ideology is literally on the front page of https://gleam.run/

	▲	AnimalMuppet 8 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		On the front page or not, I think nchagnet's point is that, in practice, he doesn't bump into it much. Whether that's good enough for you or not is up to you.
	▲	omnimus 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		you mean this? > "As a community, we want to be friendly too. People from around the world, of all backgrounds, genders, and experience levels are welcome and respected equally. See our community code of conduct for more. Black lives matter. Trans rights are human rights. No nazi bullsh*t. "

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15155 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> creator and the community have political opinions and don't like people with incompatible ones, then that's just society

Why are my political views relevant? This is a programming language. Nobody is popping into the Gleam issue tracker and mentioning politics, nobody is violating the "code of conduct" there.

The "code of conduct" exists solely to lambast people who disagree with the author's special interests in other irrelevant spaces. This is the "paradox of tolerance" in codified form.

	▲	nchagnet 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I mean it's only relevant if you bring it with you in their community. You don't sign your soul away when you download the compiler. Do you have the same issue with all the ToS asking you to not be a nazi and whatnot on a given platform?