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▲ pjc50 a day ago

However, it's now operationally much harder to make sure that the contributors actually are humans.

▲MitPitt a day ago | parent | next [-]

I look forward to human curation to be reinvented in some way. Social media algos are a tyranny. I think something new will be driven by people's desire to be different and niche.

▲mag7269 a day ago | parent | next [-]

That’ll just have to be 100% analog, and that’s until Physical AI has a massive breakthrough where they’ll make the analog also possible to be automated away.

It’s not over… “OVER” but it’s sure feeling that we are heading there, though.

▲archargelod a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is, something like that all over the internet. But it's not on any popular website or platform. Barely anyone knows about those places. And they're better that way.

I won't post a link here, but check out KamTape.

▲thesuitonym a day ago | parent [-]

That's the thing about human intervention: It can't be hyperscale. I think that's a feature, but until we as a society come to the conclusion that not every aspect of life has to be the biggest and the only, we're not going to get there.

▲markhahn 19 hours ago | parent [-]

about the not-hyper aspect: aren't you assuming some technical factors? for instance, if you assume a central mechanism capable of conducting a realtime ad auction, then yes, going hyperscale is resource-consuming.

without assuming such centralization, we end up with more distributed, even async networks. I'm not sure such a network would even need to be mainly supported by permanent hosts (like mastodon is). It could use more torrent-like ad-hoc mechanisms.

▲weezing a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Be the curator yourself, browse the small web.

▲Ragnarork a day ago | parent [-]

Browsing the small web is not that simple right now. Even if tools such as Marginalia help, it's still quite difficult for discoverability.

▲unpleasurable a day ago | parent [-]

help us, Google!

▲ShinyLeftPad a day ago | parent | prev [-]

They'll reinvent it but possibly not in the way you like. See Altman's Worldcoin for example. They sell a problem first then they sell a solution.

▲netdevphoenix a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We need a dev voucher system. Persist it across projects and time. Belonging to a vouching chain with a rogue dev down the chain loses you points the closer you are to it. Anything else is just too unreliable imo.

▲silon42 a day ago | parent | next [-]

PGP web of trust?

▲sunir a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If anyone remembers advogato.org it was a web of trust of open source devs.

▲unpleasurable a day ago | parent | prev [-]

and what do points win?

▲netdevphoenix 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Dev cred. Means you have worked with people and they trust you.

▲unpleasurable 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Sounds like the old boys' club

▲api a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In the end there's no foolproof way, so we'll just have to converge on the idea that quality is what matters.

Good AI contributions are better than lazy crap or trolling from humans, right?

▲matkoniecz a day ago | parent | next [-]

> Good AI contributions are better than lazy crap or trolling from humans, right?

but worse than no contributions at all

> we'll just have to converge on the idea that quality is what matters.

for me it is not changed at all, just that volume of spam increased and it is now harder to detect

▲dannyw a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Right. And I consider it a blessing that Claude-speak and GPT-speak continue to be so obvious :)

▲crote a day ago | parent | prev [-]

But who's going to filter out the good AI contributions from the bad AI trolls and bargain-bin-model slop?

With AI there is an infinite stream of contributions to curate. No human is ever going to volunteer for that, so unless you keep AI contributions very tightly restricted you'll rapidly lose all human contributors. At which point nobody is left to ensure only good contributions get in, so it is only a matter of time before it devolves into a giant pile of crap.

Besides, who's going to pay to run those AIs? Good models aren't free, so you are effectively turning it into a pay-to-win project. You can be absolutely certain that some tech billionaires are going to burn a few million to have "good AI" constantly rewrite their pages the way they want it.

▲singpolyma3 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

You've discovered some sentient non humans have you?

▲pjc50 a day ago | parent [-]

You don't have to be sentient to post on the internet.