| ▲ | hexapus 7 hours ago |
| I've been saying for awhile now that the utility is increasingly undeniable. It's amazing technology and for better or worse, is transforming the tech industry (in particular). I just wish we lived in a world without the speculative bubbles, because if this had been developed slowly, deliberately, over time, there would be no necessity to cast aside troublesome details like safety, suitability, and ethics...and we could enjoy the fruits as it was implemented gradually, responsibly, as it matures. As opposed to going "wow, this is really cool, but gosh I feel shitty about using it..." Nor would it have been thrust blindly into the hands of your manager, the marketing department, the CEO, and countless other folks who have no understanding of how it works, its limitations, or its risks. |
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| ▲ | matwood 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > I just wish we lived in a world without the speculative bubbles Speculative bubbles, I.E. risk is where much of the capital comes from to develop these ideas to start. I’m not sure you can have one without the other. |
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| ▲ | whycombilater 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is the utility increasingly undeniable? What does data actually show? |
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| ▲ | littlecosmic 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| When you say “increasingly undeniable” do you mean that it’s already plainly undeniable and it’s getting more so? Or do you mean it is still a bit deniable but is threatening to become undeniable soon? |
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| ▲ | ctkhn 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| A tech workers union or a stronger regulatory state could help with this but neither party has been that interested in either of those things for the last 50 years. |
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| ▲ | WalterBright 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > A tech workers union or a stronger regulatory state could help with this Look to Europe to see how that has worked out. | | |
| ▲ | sham1 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well at least from where I'm sitting, it's working fine for us. We aren't in the midst of an oligarchy made up of the Epstein class, for one. Could thing be better with the tech industry here? Sure, but at the same time, profits and industry leaders aren't the only things that matters. And at the very least companies here can't just exploit the public with total impunity. | | |
| ▲ | inglor_cz 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I am also a European. Our oligarchy looks different for sure (and look into the history of pedophile scandals in Belgium, BTW). I am not as optimistic as you. We seem to be stagnating our way into a stark choice between becoming an American tech vassal, a Chinese tech vassal, or losing out the remnants of our ability to compete on the world markets. Half of the continent borrows money at an unsustainable rate in order to pay millions of people to do nothing for decades. We have made decisions that looked reasonable at the time they were made, but too much has changed in the meantime and now we are stuck in bad equilibria. The Bismarckian pay-as-you-go pension system was stable as long as people had plenty of kids and died, on average, a few years after retiring. Now they have one kid and spend 20 years in retirement before they die. The maths of that system just does not work out anymore. The European highly regulated industry was king as long as the rest of the world had no other choice, but now that Asia has industrialized, they are blowing us out of the water. First with lower prices, but now also with quality. German exports are half of what they used to be, with another halving expected. And of course without exports, our current social spending cannot be sustained either - you cannot keep such a massive redistribution mechanism running on an economy based on selling each other cups of coffee in a beach bar. Our most talented engineers tend to move abroad and stay there. Brain drain is one of the most serious things that can happen to a country or a continent, and we are suffering from it. We just cannot continue to live like that, something will have to yield, but many voters just don't want to hear that. | |
| ▲ | chadgpt5 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > We aren't in the midst of an oligarchy made up of the Epstein class, for one. Aren't you? Or, haven't you noticed yet? | |
| ▲ | roenxi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > We aren't in the midst of an oligarchy made up of the Epstein class, for one. Europe even has literally hereditary monarchies; let alone an insular upper class who are famous for their debauchery. They just have much less free speech protection so it doesn't get bought up as much because of the legal risks. Related note, but while looking up some background info on Wikipedia it appears [0] it was technically illegal to publicly insult Donald Trump in Germany at the start of his presidency which would have added a hilarious angle to a classic joke [1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9#Germany & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country#G... [1] In the USA, you can stand in front of the White House in Washington, DC, and yell, "Down with Ronald Reagan", and you will not be punished. Equally, you can also stand in Red Square in Moscow and yell, "Down with Ronald Reagan", and you will not be punished. | | |
| ▲ | watwut 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Hereditary super class is by miles less dangerous then tech bro CEO. The latter are so closed to actually finishing American democracy Yes, America is somewhat freer then Russia. Despite aligning itself woth Russia, trying to help it as much as possible last years. But no, America does not have more freedom or human rights defense then Europe. It has also much worst powerty. | | |
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| ▲ | cowlevel 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You are posting this on a forum made by American venture capitalists, and not a forum made by European tech unions, for a reason. | | |
| ▲ | antonvs an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Curious to know what you think the reason is exactly. Nuclear weapons? Economic imperialism? Ruthlessness? | |
| ▲ | stackbutterflow 9 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Can you read the non English speaking forums? Because they exist and people post on it but if you're a monolingual American you won't know it. | |
| ▲ | sham1 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Indeed I am, and you're right, there is a reason for it. The tech unions don't need to capture mindshare in order to advertise VC-funded startups ;) We shouldn't assume that YC is hosting this forum out of benevolence. However it is true that this place is also useful for things other than just advertisement, so that's a neat side effect. We just shouldn't assume that that's the primary purpose of HN. |
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