Agreed, it's the only mainstream desktop with Windows 2000-era ergonomics, which I particularly like. I reluctantly use GNOME now for its better security.

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mahboi 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Does KDE not have that? I don't know a lot about this and have just been using whatever DE comes default. Gnome3 does seem like it's trying to be "different," and I remember Gnome2 being more normal.

	▲	mmh0000 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		(I say this as someone whose been using KDE for nearly 20 years, and who LOVES KDE). KDE is GREAT, if: you like tweaking and customizing things. The out-of-the-box KDE is lacking. It's like it wants to be a mix between GNOME's opinionated setup while giving you a lot of flexibility. This means, at least for me, KDE needs a lot of stuff "undone" to get it back to a usable point. If you hate tweaking, and want something akin to the Win2k UI feel, XFCE will get you there effectively out of the box.
	▲	drnick1 an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		No, KDE is kind of a mess and is far from the look and feel of classic desktop UIs.