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▲ contemporary343 2 hours ago

Of note is that recently, top US undergrads (in physical sciences) are actually going abroad for PhDs. I think at a statistically significant rate but we’ll have to do surveys.

▲William_BB 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I find this impossible to believe. Do you have any sources?

▲contemporary343 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It's my anecdote from my top-10-ranked U.S. program with a small sample size, but I've heard similar from colleagues at two other programs. A lot of US PhD admission cohorts have been dramatically smaller the last 2 years, so some of it is just spreading the risk in terms of applications and only getting offers abroad.

But in our case, one student actively turned down an offer from a top-3 private university in the US (ranking in our discipline) for a UK university. He specifically cited the funding landscape, since that university had had many of its grants canceled at the time, but of course did not rule out returning post PhD. He was a top student!

▲donutdonot 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We’ve had a significant increase in applications here in Europe. All the funding cuts leave less positions to apply for in the US

▲bilbo0s an hour ago | parent [-]

I think this is more what’s happening. People have to apply abroad.

There are simply not as many positions available in the US.

▲porridgeraisin 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Same. I haven't heard of this at all from collaborators. In fact I hear about more and more graduate students.

▲misiti3780 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

studying where?

▲contemporary343 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

UK and Europe primarily for US undergrads. A few went to Canada.

▲altcognito 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I imagine the answers will vary in the same way that different universities within the US had different advantage.

▲cinntaile 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would guess Canada, EU, UK, Oceania and South East Asia.

▲misiti3780 17 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

lol - why am i getting downvoted for asking where students are going ? HN is really full of a bunch of snowflakes.