> People love HTML/CSS/JS for very good reasons, and have been willing to accept the resulting tradeoffs.

Developers do. Accountants do. Users just have a bunch of janky apps that don't work right without knowing why, and have no choice in the matter.

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ajross a day ago | parent [-]

> bunch of janky apps that don't work right

Is that really fair? Those janky apps include vscode and slack! There are real technical arguments, but they're comparatively minor and very treatable when you look at it as a technical hurdle.

Which is I think why people who've picked a side get so upset over it and find themselves resorting to vague adjectives like "janky".

	▲	jen20 15 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, both are super janky. Slack in particular (I have used it all day every work day since 2014). Random stuff just doesn’t work constantly, and none of the platform conventions are respected. VS Code respects the platform less than JetBrains products, which are also cross-platform.