I can't help but think of the dad who was investigated by the FBI for having pictures he took to show his kid's doctor.

Are parents going to be arrested for pictures of their kids in the bathtub? Or at least are they going to be blurred?

> there was a “ghastly worldwide industry” of child sexual abuse material being created, and that Britain was one of the biggest consumers of it,

They're talking about anime and how UK is not making any, nor is it significant market of to be infliential to, yet nevertheless consuming it in ever larger quantity over the years, unilaterally receiving cultural influence with no leverages, not even cash flow that can be choked off. Lots of these "CSAM" stuff is inflated with imaginary kids and trafficking angles to hide that intent, but it boils down to that.

Otherwise the action taken would be to assigning more police officers or otherwise assigning more resources to support kids IRL. They're not doing that. They only want speeches suppressed.

I don't know why they don't just tax social media for it, though. CDN bandwidth for foreign user-generated contents can be measured. Maybe because they just don't like fictions at all, but that ship had sailed like, thousands of years ago.

The worst part is in the end: “We will also give the police the powers they need to keep pace with criminal use of emerging technologies in order to keep our children safe.”

Which means that not only will it blur it, it will also report it and you will be processed for a picture of your kid for the doctor or when the "fail safe" software fails.

90% of voters back the software? I'm curious what the "short description" they gave was. I'm surprised not more people are concerned about the surveillance aspect.

Kind of an aside but they finally removed the hereditary members this year (yes this year)! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords_(Hereditary_Pee...

Though there's still these lads I think? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_Spiritual

This is an insane proposal, what they really mean is protecting the children is a front for surveillance since you'll look bad if you don't care about children.

This is what happens when multiple sinister interests align: Apple and Google will get to further cement their smartphone OS and hardware duopoly. Five Eyes will get extra surveillance and dissent suppression capabilities. Corrupt men of the Epstein class will get their crimes covered up because the public can no longer record or view the evidence.

We must never forget the Five Eyes global surveillance apparatus exposed by Edward Snowden [0]. And never forget that elite child predators are protected by governments [1].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#Revelations [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

I think it's very interesting. The detection function needs to send data back to the cloud, right?

Does it need to be written into the Kernel? Or how does it work?

I think we're probably not far from the world of Watch Dogs. As for whether it will become 2077, we'll have to wait and see.

Interesting. The first laws in Turkey started to around 15 years ago with the only purpose of protecting children. That is how the first internet blocking started in Turkey. Now they block any negative thing about the government. But CSAM is not active in Turkey because why would it be? It is not about children but opressing political opponents.

At this point why they don’t record everything from our microphones? It will prevent many tax evasions and crimes.

This is not about CSAM, it is about an infrastructure for large scale censorship and tracking of publishing and publishers.

Anyone talking about CSAM has missed the point entirely.

I'm so happy they left the EU.

Yea nah.

I find this creepy. Maybe even more creepy than the Pedophiles. Why? Because I seriously doubt Pedophiles are thinking that what they are doing is "good".

What is happening to Western Civilization? It feels more and more like some creepy Authoritarian dystopia. This is just an excuse to spy on people's phones. You know it will be abused. That it won't be just to check to see if they have illegal pictures of kids.

So many people are going to be falsley accused and have their lives ruined. This shows either terrible judgement or sinister motives to spy on citizens.

The house of lords should absolutely fuck off back to the dark ages where it belongs. Useless institution that keeps interfering with democracy(case in point - recent assisted dying bill)

Just for some context: 2022, USA,

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/22/google-cs...

> "Google has refused to reinstate a man’s account after it wrongly flagged medical images he took of his son’s groin as child sexual abuse material (CSAM), the New York Times first reported. Experts say it’s an inevitable pitfall of trying to apply a technological solution to a societal problem.

> "Experts have long warned about the limitations of automated child sexual abuse image detection systems, particularly as companies face regulatory and public pressure to help address the existence of sexual abuse material."

Thanks for providing the tech and buddying up with governments, Silicon Valley! /s

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How do they plan on stopping creation, especially on older devices?

Bold move from a country that wrongfully arrested and convicted thousands of postmasters due to buggy software that determined they were stealing.

The UK is running so fast towards ever increasing authoritarianism. I can't see it stopping.

They were pushing out today that they're going to add, well, what they call a ban for under 16s, which really means strong ID for everyone else, to access eBay and Vinted in case kids use the messaging functions on them.

It'll be TCP next. Then you'll need government permission to blink.

This will create more attack vectors, make phones more ineffeciant, make massive piles of people innocent of wrongdoing put prosecuted and jailed for sending pics of their kids to their family and doctors, and generally increase the power of the state to surveil its citizens to an extreme degree, on par with the worst totalitarian dictatorships.

Its funny, every time I talk to a brit they seem very intelligent and reasonable but then they've been happily electing people who make their country into an extreme surveillance state, labor & conservative both. I think their accent just makes them sound smarter than they are.

I don't get the fuss. This is absolutely only going to be used to detect CSAM content, this year.

Cool, so 800 tech illiterate senior citizens are mandating updates for _all_ legacy smartphones.

> Older devices could also be covered using a mandatory software update.

Highly curious about how they'll be able to do that.

Will they force apple to release ios27 for an iPhone 4?

As usual, the UK seems to be driving towards 1984-style dystopia.

UK's got a Mumsnet Government

What could possibly go wrong with a government having the ability to stop people from seeing things that they consider bad.

What a bunch of morons.

Remove “illicit” from this headline and you get a better idea of what’s happening.

Perhaps they should focus their energy on reducing pedophilia in their leadership and monarchy instead of spying on their people? (Oh right that’s the whole point of this legislation in the first place… Nevermind…)

And smartphones of House of Lords members will sell for record prices, because they will be exempt from this. We should have them SWATted continuously for CSAM as a thank you.

The HoL have no manifesto, no democratic mandate, and should be proposing jack shit.

doubful this will pass in its current form, but if it somehow does: countdown until yet another parent is arrested for pictures of their own baby in their phone.

Have they tried investigating the Epstein Class?

How many of them still have Ghislane on there speed dial? and palsy walsy pics of themselves, the prince formerly known as royal, Jeffery, and a few junior massage trainies.

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Maybe they should focus on fixing their country first