| ▲ | Youden 5 hours ago | |||||||
I think your leading statement is a bit more authoritative than what the linked paper actually demonstrates. It demonstrates your claimed qualities for specific algorithms, methodologies, and models. It explicitly says that Quantization-Aware Training is out of scope, may reveal different trends and has potential for extreme quantization. Heavily-quantized model releases today generally use QAT or something similar, so I don't think the paper can be universally applied to modern quants (e.g. [0]). That said, I don't see any evidence that TFA does any of that so the paper's claims may be quite applicable there. [0]: https://huggingface.co/vcruz305/DSV4.1-Flash-1017-SAGE-REXL3... | ||||||||
| ▲ | fho 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
I recently did some toying around with (very) small language models (<200k). I used QAT from the beginning and was surprised that I got byte identical results from the int8 model vs the float32 one. If that scales with parameters I don't see why QAT shouldn't be the norm. (As I was only comparing the QAT f32 model vs the quantization its possible that a not QAT f32 would have performed even better) | ||||||||
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| ▲ | bitexploder 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
And things like GSQ-RCO optimization from ISTA labs, EXL that you linked. Preserving bits for certain (large) domains like agentic coding. Pruning others. It really works and creates functional models. | ||||||||