| ▲ | dingaling911 a day ago |
| Sorry, what on earth are you doing where the open models are more expensive than the subs? When I was using anthropic subs, my "equivalent usage" was $6k/month. On the open models (specifically deepseek flash), it's < $100/month. Same work, maybe more. |
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| ▲ | ac29 a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| The large open models (GLM-5.3, Kimi3, etc) are far more expensive than their large closed equivalents (Opus, Sol), because the closed models are far more subsidized when using subscriptions. If you see no difference at all in between Opus and Deepseek Flash for your work, that is great! Personally, I found the latter to be unusable for the projects I was working on. |
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| ▲ | dingaling911 a day ago | parent [-] | | Can you describe what you are doing where comparing the two is problematic? For what it's worth, I use DS flash for statistical analysis, design (C++, Python), scripting, server maintenance. The same I used for Opus. |
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| ▲ | jpardoe a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > When I was using anthropic subs, my "equivalent usage" was $6k/month. Exactly, yeah. The subscriptions are insanely generous and far better value than open models. |
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| ▲ | dingaling911 a day ago | parent [-] | | No, my point is I can get the same work done paying < $100/month with the open models. | | |
| ▲ | jpardoe a day ago | parent [-] | | I don’t think you can. | | |
| ▲ | dingaling911 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | You'd be surprised what you can accomplish if you don't just let the agents go wild. | | |
| ▲ | sausagefeet 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | An Anthropic sub is $200/mo, max. I only use open weight models, but the reality is that $200/mo Anthropic sub is way better value per dollar than an open weight model. I use open weight models for other reasons, but I have to limit myself to flash, and I am very controlling of which providers I use to keep the price down, and I still come out a little worse than Anthropic for my monthly bill. I don't know how you use your agents and what kind of work you are doing, but my experience is that in terms of pure output per dollar, you cannot beat an Anthropic subscription with an open weight model. | |
| ▲ | jpardoe 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm not saying you don't get good value out of your $100, I'm sure you're doing great, but I'm also absolutely certain if you followed the exact same workflow with an Anthropic subscription you would get better value. |
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