Not optimizing for eyes free coding, versus hands free, would be a welcomed change. It's hard to take the p(doom) worry seriously when such unsafe development practices are prognosticated from Anthropic employees

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pama a day ago | parent [-]

Eyes free always wins over hands free in the long term. Hands free does not scale (optimize) past the 2023–2025 human-in-the-loop coding. It has known problems, basically boiling down to human error rate is higher than machine error rate, and the latter reduces with better models. I am incredibly happy that the era of human approval is no longer considered viable by a majority (most of us knew that for years, but reality diffuses slowly in many corporate environments.) This does not mean there isn’t work left to be done, but eyes free is the right focus.

	▲	kaffekaka 13 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I feel lucky to work in an environment where the sheer amount of code we need to produce is not the bottleneck, so it is actually possible to build the stuff we need while also maintaining understanding and oversight. We do not read all code but work on finding a balance. Many times, the code you do not have to write at all is the best. It is certainly possible also for us to produce so much code that all hope of understanding and human in the loop is practically gone, but as i wrote this is not the bottleneck and so doing it would the wrong choice. If you work somewhere where every additional line of code is a positive, I understand if you take this more radical approach of just letting the machine make all decisions.
	▲	verdverm 16 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I have very serious doubts, the errors are not in the same category, transformers are fundamentally limited. Eyes free is the wrong focus, it will do more short term damage to society, while being impossible at scale. But I understand there are a bunch of valley types who want to completely obviate humans for whatever reason, it's an alternate reality they live in. Here's the thing, society will revolt against these people, they already gave the first warning shots. This HN submission is a story about another person leaving the products of a company engaging in eyes free practices. You wouldn't want your lawyers and doctors doing that, why software developers then? > human approval is no longer considered viable by a majority Where do you see data that the majority believe this? From what I can see it is a shrinking minority as we move beyond peak hype.