I'm quite confused by what you mean human level AI here. Maybe we haven't hit Einstein but we blew past the average person a long time ago.

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haltingproblem a day ago | parent | next [-]

It is very jagged and some people don't consider that human level AGI - it can solve Maths at the genius level just like Deep Blue could play chess at the grandmaster level. At this point it is simply an opinion and I can see the other side too.

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paganel a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> but we blew past the average person a long time ago.

We did?

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procone a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sorry, but what? We haven't done anything beyond strapping a large language model to a "harness".

At no point do I ever confuse a human being with a Claude session.

Even if I'm somehow fooled or confused for a minute, the context window / hallucinations / Claudeish will immediately give it away.

Sure, we passed the turing test for chatbots but we are very far away from AGI.

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mr_roboto 12 hours ago | parent [-]

That could be how human intelligence stacks, search retrieval (LLM) with learned approaches to processing that info (harness). Maybe you are insulated from the average person. The frontier models easily surpass their intellectual ability to absorb new information and apply it to novel situations.

The average person will also hallucinate things and make all sorts of causality mistakes without realizing it AND refuse evidence of such whereas models tend to acquiesce to evidence. A model with the right harness will outperform any of these people at their current desk jobs. To me that is general intelligence. Most of us on HN tend to far surpass this general intelligence and likely experience a false consensus or assumed similarity bias.

	▲	procone 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sorry but I stopped reading about halfway through. This is an insane worldview and you will be impossible to converse with.

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Exoristos a day ago | parent | prev [-]

With this perspective on LLMs, you are presumably often "quite confused" if you interact with them to a significant extent.