> RPi is horrible value now you can get so much more from a lot of other boards it's not even a comparison now.

They didn't really exist before. And software support is still best on RPi. But they did really lose the plot because you could buy a whole x86 mini PC (new) for less and they're much better (unless you need GPIO).

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II2II a day ago | parent | next [-]

> They didn't really exist before.

This is something that a lot of people seem to forget. I remember a friend showing me a low-performance Linux-based devboard shortly before the release of the Raspberry Pi. It cost hundreds of dollars. On top of that, support for the board was worse than the support for most of the Linux devboards released after the Raspberry Pi (which often has poor support compared to the Raspberry Pi).

> unless you need GPIO

I'm not even sure how that is relevant in most use cases if cost is a factor. Microcontroller development boards are inexpensive and will hook up to the x86 mini PC via USB. If you're willing to pay a bit more, many Wi-Fi based options are available.

	▲	Rohansi a day ago \| parent [-]
		> I'm not even sure how that is relevant in most use cases if cost is a factor. Totally agreed. Microcontrollers do GPIO better than a RPi ever did. An ESP32 or Raspberry Pi Pico can handle so much on their own.

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Narishma a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I wouldn't say they lost the plot as they really don't have much choice with the current inflated component prices. It's either increase the prices or discontinue the products.

	▲	Rohansi a day ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Actually, mini PCs were cheaper before the prices went through the roof! A ~$250 CAD mini PC comes with everything included vs. everything being a separate "accessory" purchase. Power supply, case, cooling, SD card (or M.2 HAT + SSD, because the mini PC comes with an SSD).
	▲	bitwize 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Or just prevent people from purchasing at all which is now happening with higher-end compute: https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/mini-pcs/amazon-closes... It's happening. The powers that be are now deciding what kind and how much compute you may have. Enjoy your 4 GiB cloud terminal. You won't be able to own much more without a D-U-N-S number.