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▲ infwhispers 2 days ago

My bad. In my defense, only the technical parts are AI. But, thanks for the feedback; I thought I had unsloped it enough...

▲JoshTriplett 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

It's not possible to un-AI text, only replace it wholesale.

Suggestion for next time: "Review my prose for accuracy, grammar, appropriate strength of claims, etc. Flag any issues for my attention. Do not provide text; this work should not contain any AI-written content." That'll turn it into a very good check that doesn't take your voice away.

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▲nstents 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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▲smallerize 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

It's already technically possible for LLMs to generate all kinds of styles of text. In fact older models are better at it. It's the newer models that are nearly impossible to steer. This makes me less hopeful for the future. There is apparently some incentive for Claude and ChatGPT to lock in these very recognizable patterns.

▲Spooky23 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AI writing is fine in a constrained space.

If you create a strict template, like a PowerPoint deck or tightly formatted report, the LM does a really, really good job. at populating that template with good data.

If you give it an open license to just create stuff, it’s always terrible for the general audience — but it may be fine for you or a small group that is familiar with the subject.

I compare it to fast food. An uneducated teenager is quite capable of putting together a McDonald’s lunch within the constraints of the system. If you let the kid loose in a kitchen designed for trained chefs, the result would not be a good lunch.

▲jdiff 2 days ago | parent [-]

> but it may be fine for you or a small group that is familiar with the subject.

One of the problems with LLM writing is that the "small group" is very often only itself, maybe including the prompter. Details of the prompts or implementation or internal chain-of-thought nits leak out into prose, divorced from context.

Many READMEs are now littered with proud declarations of the removal of Foo, with any explanation purged with it. It exists in this project, too. A header of one graph is "Where each fact came from, decoded out of the bitmask." Why should the audience care about this implementation detail at this location? Just label it "Sources" and move on.

▲Spooky23 a day ago | parent [-]

Yeah, the LLMs “thought” process does not distinguish between internal monologue and presentation well.

That’s why you funnel it into a template.

▲bookofjoe 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Complaints of AI are like a form of friction that eventually goes away.

This. Already there is evolution in AI-related comments here.

For example, a year ago they often featured remarks like "I know AI when I see it: here are unmistakeable 'tells.'"

Then there would be a lively back-and-forth about the validity of the stated giveaways.

Such "How I know it's AI"-type comments no longer appear.

▲jazzypants 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

"It's not X, it's Y" is still the most obvious one. Abuse of passive voice is another. We stopped talking about it because it gets boring to say the same things over and over.

▲jdiff 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

This has not been my experience. People talk about LLM-isms (Claude-isms especially) all the time. "The absolute shape", "load bearing", "seams", "smoking gun", genuinely empty preambles, constant sloganesque phrasing. If you're seeing it less in conversation, it's not because it's improved.

▲kelseyfrog 2 days ago | parent [-]

Genius-level response. And honestly, that's valid.

▲ChrisMarshallNY 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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▲otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

I’m sorry you feel defeated, but such attitudes won’t help.

▲ChrisMarshallNY 2 days ago | parent [-]

Help what?

▲otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

Help improve or restore the quality of content.

▲ChrisMarshallNY 2 days ago | parent [-]

Been doing that for decades. This is just another tool.

Check out my work. I don’t hide it.

▲RunSet 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It is funny to me how slop enthusiasts argue from the past and the future to deny the present state.

"Slop is here to stay so you better get used to it because slop is inevitable and you will be left behind."

It is both already a cemented permanent presence and destined to arrive by an unbreakable prophecy at a date TBD.

▲whoanoway 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

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▲nstents 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

If you came away thinking I was enthusing about AI slop, it's probably because I was too subtle in comparing it to a food I abhor while saying there are tidbits, non-slop tidbits, that I could appreciate. Apologies for that human generated mischance!

▲ChrisMarshallNY 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I'm actually rather bemused to see many young folks, arguing against LLMs and ML, and seeing more experienced folks, embracing it.

I'm pretty experienced, and have found LLMs to be quite useful.

Like any new tool, there are deficits and peculiarities, but these are becoming less of a concern, and the utility of these tools is advancing rapidly.

▲masfuerte 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

We get it. You are saying that in the future there will only be mushrooms to eat and as a result everyone will enjoy mushrooms.

Now think about how much you hate mushrooms.

Do you see the problem with your argument?

▲embedding-shape 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> In my defense, only the technical parts are AI.

A defense would be "I just used it for spellchecking" not "I just used it for the meat and the important parts people care about, the rest is mine!"

▲NewsaHackO 2 days ago | parent [-]

Yes, that was a weird defense; essentially, he used it for the actual interesting parts of the article.

▲Hamuko 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So most of it?

▲fatata123 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So only the parts that matter, you ai slopped. Great work.

▲sick_of_slop 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You can’t unslop A.I. prose. Once it’s written, the content is poisoned.

“Sure there was a turd in the punch bowl but I did my best to remove it, so you should be able to drink it.”

Nope.

And the technical parts are what matter, saying you did that with A.I. tells me “I don’t care about this part” so what the heck are we even doing here?

▲rowanG077 2 days ago | parent [-]

Interesting for me it's the opposite. I care about this so I let AI do it since LLM are better writers than the majority of people. I'm not so arrogant to think I'm a writer of that caliber.

▲amenhotep 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

You are. I promise you. Almost every single person is a better writer than an LLM. You're wilfully sabotaging yourself.

▲InsideOutSanta 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe LLMs are better writers than the majority of people, but that's only because the majority of people just don't write. If you have any level of competency, you are a better writer than an LLM, because good writing requires empathy. It required thinking about what the audience knows, what they want to know, what kind of writing they are comfortable with, and so on.

LLMs fail at those things.

▲asdff 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

LLM are terrible writers though. Worse than most humans unless they have some mental disability.

▲sick_of_slop 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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