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barrenko 2 days ago

Or that Russia commenced as a Viking startup.

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fsckboy 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think the Russia case is the case of some Viking leaders of Slavs

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madspindel 2 days ago | parent [-]

Vikings took slavs as slaves. In Swedish "slav" means "slave". Vikings was rowers from Roslagen. In Finland they use the name Ruotsi for Sweden and Venäjä for Russia.

	▲	stasomatic 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I rewatched the Vikings recently (highly recommended, perhaps not historically accurate, but no horn helmets). It was a bit ... don't know, eye opening or strange or hard to believe to learn that the Vikings played a crucial role in that part of the continent and Constantinople. I know that the term "Viking" is not an ethnic identification, more like a profession/warrior, but I don't have another word in my vocabulary. Ivar the Boneless, Varangians. When I was growing up in Ukraine, this was never ever mentioned in any literature, school, college. That the names like Oleg or Igor were not native threw a twist too, but they are very common names over there in UA/RU, on par with Ivan and Dmitry.
	▲	bergie 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Estonian "Venemaa" for Russia sort of points at a common origin there ("venemaa" would be "boat land" in Finnish). So rowing land, boat land.

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griffzhowl 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

And based in Kiev

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27

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somenameforme 2 days ago | parent [-]

Wiki has a pretty interesting history on that [1]:

During its existence, Kievan Rus was known as rusĭskaja zemlja, translated as the "land of Rus" or the "Rus land" (Old East Slavic: роу́сьскаꙗ землꙗ́), with Rus being derived from the ethnonym Роусь. ... The first known use of the term Kievan Rus comes from the 1582 chronicle by Polish historian Maciej Stryjkowski, where it was used to describe the region of Rus state immediately adjacent to Kyiv.

In 1837 it was adopted by Kyiv University rector Mykhailo Maksymovych in relation to the Principality of Kiev; known for his Ukrainophile political orientation, Maksymovych later spread that definition to the whole realm, seeing Kyiv as the original point where Rus statehood emerged, establishing the base for the future Russian Empire.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27#Names

	▲	barrenko 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Funny how our slavic etymologies's mythologies are similar - Ukranian picture - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27#/media/File:%D0%... Croatian picture - https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolazak_Hrvata#/media/Datoteka...