| ▲ | marhee 4 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
How does this comment fare with the recent drop of 700 or so novel math proofs? Is math intelligence possibly the outlier because math is the most self-contained knowledge where absolute truth is the easiest to establish? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | program_whiz an hour ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I wonder, now that we see how far "dumb" approaches to math have gotten, if we just had a massive DB of every math statement that has been proven so far, and we had a program that had 10s of thousands of GPUs running vectorized proof solvers, and we just started doing a search from the final proof statement to underlying axioms, how far we would get... It seems like LLMs are just guiding an extreme brute-force search (there's a reason they didn't use a single Astra agent, but 10s of thousands). I'm curious if there are maybe a few million mathematical statements, and only a certain subset will connect at the search nodes you're on. If we had such a DB (which is currently the LLM), how effective such a search would be? This is a bit like program induction but on a math theory. Perhaps the limit so far has been lack of such a database, no one has put every math paper into a formal LEAN proof so it can be leveraged. A lot of key breakthroughs so far seem to just be "recombination" of existing things (not a massive quantum leap in new math), so perhaps we just need to automate this via search (and not with a very expensive intermediate database of LLMs). Of course, I've read that just compiling the core math lib of LEAN takes 10+ minutes, so its not exactly a fast process at the moment, so quality of guess is probably a limiting factor. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | chr15m 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Mathematics is machine verifiable, meaning you can automate RL at high volume. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Kwpolska 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Those proofs have not yet been verified by any human. It's quite likely those will turn out to be complete slop and gibberish on closer inspection. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | roncesvalles 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
A lot of those proofs are slop and lack the elegance of a human solution. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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