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▲ cowlevel a day ago

Goodhart's law: whatever you measure will improve. And the measurement is money extraction.

▲jonny2811 a day ago | parent | next [-]

any measurement that becomes a target ceases to be a useful measurement*

▲optimalsolver a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's not the definition of Goodhart's law. That's the opposite of Goodhart's law, in fact.

▲cowlevel 18 hours ago | parent [-]

It's exactly Goodhart's law. The measured thing improves.

▲bigstrat2003 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Goodhart's law is that the measured thing increases, not improves. Increasing may in fact be worsening.

▲cowlevel 11 hours ago | parent [-]

So if I measure accidents, accidents will increase?

▲allexsendev 7 hours ago | parent [-]

interrupting your thread bcs what the law states directly is less interesting than what it puts the emphasis on: if maxing out measurement becomes the goal, it isn't measuring what it was supposed to. Take a concrete example - original point of schools/academia was education. Eventually grades started measuring education, and now grades are the goal instead of education. ppl started optimizing for grades by any means possible -> grades aren't good measure of education anymore.

▲palata a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Is there a law that says "whenever something is profitable, people attracted to money will come for the money". And obviously, the best way to make money is not to build good tech.

▲cowlevel 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's called capitalism, I think, but it's only one part of capitalism

▲allexsendev a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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