That’s a pretty big deal if that 100% is genuinely deep/all the way.

Don’t think any other country can do end to end in house?

▲ maxglute 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If cpu x90, then process smic n+2, probably still ASML DUVs... if not implication profound. Even if domestic tooling, can't imagine this full end to end, they're aggressively indigenizing and validating all the semi inputs, i.e. gases, chemicals last few years but seems too early to have all parts covered. When they do (unlikely now) in which case, yeah probably PRC only country with entire closed loop indigenous semi chain -> hardware -> software stack. On the other hand I wouldn't put past that some very low volume 100% domestic trial line exist.

▲ MiroslavPokorny 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The CPU is based on ARM and English company that designs CPUs, and the OS is a fork of Android which is American.

	▲	flanz_10 20 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		fwiw harmonyos hasnt used android/linux for a few years. they still support apks via an aosp container, though
	▲	russli1993 20 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		no, they just use ARM instructions set, the core design such as CPU, GPU, NPU, etc is all their own, like Apple. OS is not fork of Android, there is no Android code in HarmonyOS. HarmonyOS uses Linux kernel but has its own user space systems.
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	▲	yogthos 20 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Except now both Kirin X90 and HarmonyOS are their own thing. Just like Android itself is based off Linux, but is its own thing now too. What matters is that the chips and the OS are developed domestically in China without reliance on British or American companies.

▲ dmitrygr 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

  >Don’t think any other country can do end to end in house?

Russia can, France could if they wanted to

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klrefg 17 hours ago | parent [-]

If you count Russia then US obviously can as well. If you lower the bar even slightly further to 80s/90s tech even more countries would qualify.

	▲	dmitrygr 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I assumed the US was included as a given, what with Intel here

▲ Neywiny a day ago | parent | prev [-]

The US can. There are domestic packaging people and board houses. I think the EU can but I'm not sure and that's not a country.