My thoughts exactly.

I'm pretty uncomfortable with how many smartphones I'd like to buy end up being Chinese owned companies. I wish Fairphone had a better camera, if it did, I'd just buy one of those and call it day.

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grapheneos an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Fairphones are designed and made for Fairphone by T2Mobile which is a Chinese ODM. Fairphones have very poor updates and security. Those devices are incredibly far from meeting the requirements for GrapheneOS and cannot be supported. Fairphones aren't European phones but rather Chinese designed and made devices sold by a European brand. T2Mobile not only designs the hardware but also builds and signs the firmware. Fairphone does very limited engineering and mainly combines AOSP, Google Mobile Services and the firmware/drivers from T2Mobile to make the stock OS. They're not in a position to meet our requirements. T2Mobile doesn't provide good security in practice and would need to greatly improve. Trying to get an ODM to improve security is only realistic with a security-focused organization as their direct customer and Fairphone definitely isn't.

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ysnp 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It depends on the level of involvement you're comfortable with. As far as I'm aware, Fairphone are partnered with a Chinese ODM T2 Mobile for the hardware portion of their smartphone products. You can expect they are sourcing the hardware and spares, SoC/subsystem BSP components, peripherals and associated firmware from T2Mobile.

Independence from the Chinese manufacturing hegemony probably means opting for a flagship Samsung, 11-series Pixel or pre-2025 Sony flagship.

	▲	grapheneos an hour ago \| parent [-]
		T2Mobile designs and makes Fairphones along with providing the firmware and drivers. T2Mobile even signs the firmware. Fairphone doesn't have a similar role as Apple or Google has with Foxconn. They also have much less involvement than Google had with Nexus devices prior to Pixels.

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sellmesoap 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wish fairphone was waterproof, what's the advantage of a repairable phone if a rainy hike will destroy it!

	▲	grapheneos an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Fairphones also don't get proper updates which ruins the prospect of using those over the long term. Fairphone 5 and earlier already have end-of-life Linux kernel branches with no plans to port forward as Pixels do. Fairphone 6 will be in the same situation soon. OS updates are delayed for a year or more at launch and it gets much worse. Incomplete backports of patches to older releases start out delayed 1 to 2 months, which gets worse.

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cowlevel 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We can solve this if we make a non-Chinese smartphone company. But how?

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creaturemachine an hour ago | parent [-]

Trump Mobile

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ThePowerOfFuet an hour ago | parent [-]

Is this sarcasm? It's a rebranded Chinese phone.

	▲	ram1500natrluvr an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Yea but it's "designed with American values in mind".