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▲ gjsman-1000 2 days ago

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▲chneu 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Your post is absolute nonsense. Plenty of people know exactly how everything on a plane or car works, or a CPU. I've worked with tons of people who do.

The fear of deskilling is very valid and is already messing things up.

▲gjsman-1000 2 days ago | parent [-]

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▲bccdee a day ago | parent | next [-]

They know the tires are rated for hitting a landing strip under XYZ conditions, they know how to test the tires to ensure they're still confirming to the expectations of that rating, and they're in contact with the trusted organization that's responsible for issuing that rating. Each expert has a comprehensive understanding of their field, and the fields comfortably overlap with no gaps. For any given perspective, there are several people with the complete picture of that perspective.

Contrast this with a vibe-coded "airplane" where nobody actually understands the tires and you're basically operating on a set of assumptions. The tires are not rated and there's no trusted organization. Maybe it works, but you don't actually know. Very different; don't play language games.

▲nozzlegear a day ago | parent | prev [-]

You're putting forth a ridiculous argument. An airplane engineer doesn't need to know how to create the universe from scratch just to work their way up to maintaining airplanes, but they sure as hell understand how the major systems work, how those systems interact, and how to diagnose problems. They don't just tinker around blindly.

▲subarctic a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My understanding was that for every component there's someone somewhere who understands exactly how it works at least in terms of smaller components/abstractions and for each of those, recursively, someone knows how it works

▲add-sub-mul-div 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We're losing a respect and understanding of how basic competence works.

▲wolvesechoes 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Nobody understands everything about how an airplane works, not even the lead engineers. Nobody understands everything about how a car works

Of course people do.

▲chasd00 2 days ago | parent [-]

Doubtful. The engine engineer doesn’t know the chemical engineering of modern fuels nor the code in the engine controller.

▲anthk 2 days ago | parent [-]

In my country in order to earn a true CS degree you need to learn both Chemistry and EE.

Also check the Homebrew CPU running a custom port of Minix 2 with in-place ported C compilers, linkers and assemblers.

▲skydhash a day ago | parent [-]

I had to learn geology and engineering drawing, because the first two years syllabus overlapped with civil and electromechanical engineering.

▲anonymous908213 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"I'm clueless and don't know how anything works, therefore experts don't exist" is one of the worst takes to come out of this godforsaken tech.

▲Emjayen a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This sounds awfully like the self-soothing mantra slop-kiddies everywhere tell themselves.

Plenty of people have a deep understanding of software/hardware, as that's the context here. I personally can take you from usermode, through the kernel (both NT and Linux), down to the hardware interface, explaining the vast majority of systems along the way, and critically, as they relate to performance concerns.

So can plenty of others who actually know+understand things.

▲gamblor956 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You picked very bad examples. There are plenty of people who know exactly how everything in a plane or car works, how taxes work, how medical billing works, how a Cpu works.

Cal used to require EECS students learn how to make a basic CPU. Students at CalTech learn how to make advanced planes as student projects.

▲alala-lala-lon 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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▲rvz 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

This is textbook whataboutism.