In Data Centres. Not in retail where Intel is still undercutting AMD's desktop processors in price, to retain its market share ... It's a tactic that Intel has repeatedly used against AMD, but I don't think I've ever seen equivalent Intel processors cheaper than AMDs offering ever. I guess now it has government backing, it feels it can take more short-term risks like this as it is now "too Big to fail" ...

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dijit 4 hours ago | parent [-]

finding a computer with an AMD chip in it is quite difficult to be honest. A high end laptop is almost guaranteed to come with an Intel chip.

The OEM deals run extremely deep, and thunderbolt (an Intel standard) is a brutal feature to drop I think for many laptop makers.

	▲	unshaved2 an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Thunderbolt 1-3 was an Intel standard. They gifted it to the USB IF where USB4 was made from it. Ongoing it's a certification program for USB4 / USB4 v2.0 nothing more. In practice, every USB4 controller manufactured so far is certifiable and indeed with the 8840U generation AMD started certifying their SoC -- the only difference between the 7840U and the 8840U is slightly higher clock on the NPU and the TB4 certification. Compare https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T... to https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T... or https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/ish_8110922-8110971-16 vs https://support.hp.com/lv-en/document/ish_10397818-10397862-...
	▲	justsomehnguy 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> thunderbolt (an Intel standard) is a brutal feature to drop There are models on AMD CPU with Thunderbolt[0]. Now a true 2-in-1 with a touch screen, AMD and Thunderbolt AND with 14"... unicorn I've never met. [0] https://psref.lenovo.com/search/# select 'Platform Specifications' and add Thunderbolt and AMD separately.