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▲ lakeviewterrace 5 hours ago

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▲hackernud3s 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Apparently they do not though.

▲Terr_ 5 hours ago | parent [-]

There were experts but the Republican White House fired them:

https://techcrunch.com/2025/03/11/doge-axes-cisa-red-team-st...

Perhaps some of them annoyed the President's illegally-appointed mega-donor, if they spoke out against giving root access to all his unvetted junior flunkies.

▲FireBeyond 4 hours ago | parent [-]

The same junior flunkies who would do things like go to government agencies, create administrative accounts, which would then, often with minutes, be seen connecting from Russia and Eastern Europe with the correct credentials.

▲trismus 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Source?

▲adzm 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Daniel J. Berulis, a cybersecurity architect with the NLRB, filed a whistleblower complaint alleging that within 15 minutes of DOGE team members creating new user credentials and demanding administrative access, multiple login attempts using those exact credentials originated from a Russian IP address

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-...

▲Terr_ 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh come on, search-engines have gone downhill, but not that far downhill! You already know it involves "DOGE" and "Russia" and "credentials", that ought to be enough:

> Berulis alleged in the affidavit that there attempted logins to NLRB systems from an IP address in Russia in the days after DOGE accessed the systems. He told Reuters Tuesday that the attempted logins apparently included correct username and password combinations but were rejected by location-related conditional access policies.

* https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/whistleblow...

* https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-...

▲trismus an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I could have this entire conversation with ai too.

▲what 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> often

You have one alleged example.

▲Terr_ 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> You have one alleged example.

That sounds like being deliberately obtuse and arguing in bad-faith. Are you going to "nuh uh" all the journalists and lawyers until you are personally given raw TCP dumps?

Behold, from the sworn affidavit of the DevSecOps guy with the top-secret clearance, as included in a whistleblower disclosure to Congress [0]:

> There were more than 20 such attempts, and what is particularly concerning is that many of these login attempts occurred within 15 minutes of the accounts being created by DOGE engineers.

So there it is, now don't go moving the goalposts.

[0] https://whistlebloweraid.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2025...

▲manyatoms 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'd be stunned if they're paying anywhere near enough to attract top talent

▲dhosek 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I applied to USDS in 2023, the process took nearly a year and ended with them just ghosting me after two interview rounds. Pay was capped (by law) below my target salary but at a level that I would accept as it would have been fully remote, but there was also a term limit on the job which meant I would have at most two years in the position.

It’s not just the pay, there’s a lot of structural elements that mean that the potential talent pool is less than desired.

▲vlan0 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Th best folks I know wouldn't touch a government job, no matter the pay.

▲fhub 4 hours ago | parent [-]

There was a period of time where it seemed (as an outsider) that they were attracting good talent. This was when Megan Smith was CTO. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_Smith.

▲alt227 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Dont they usually bargain work against jailtime for domestic cyber criminals?

▲2III7 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Read "This is how they tell me the world ends".

Or let me sum it up for you. The government doesn't have the money to employ top security experts and top security experts don't actually want to work for the government.

▲altairprime 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Sometimes, top security experts often can’t work for the U.S. government even if they do want to due to being ineligible for security clearance from checks notes gender and sexuality mistrust, non-zero drug usage lifetime to date, formerly grayhats, have ever sought mental health care, and/or anti-authoritarian viewpoints.

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▲lakeviewterrace 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

To be fair, the track record for mentally unwell people in positions of trust isn't great.

▲dylan604 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Before the most recent elections, people voted for an unwell person to lead the country. So it's not just someone can obtain the position, but that people actually chose to put one in office. Twice. Although, it was less well known on the first one.

▲what an hour ago | parent [-]

> unwell person

Do you mean Biden?

> twice

Oh.

▲StilesCrisis 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Saw a therapist once" =/= "unwell."

In fact avoiding therapy at all costs is a good sign of trouble.

▲maxbond 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The track record for preventing people in positions of trust from seeking out mental health care is terrible. It's just brushing problems under the rug and waiting for them to turn rancid. Don't interpret not seeking help as the nonexistence of a problem, especially if their career depends on it.

▲altairprime 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Does the Department of Defense still have a clearance disqual for ADHD?

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▲vlan0 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Bruh do you remember snowden? The government is HEAVILY sub-contracted. Accenture? Really? My guy...