| ▲ | Conductor Is Joining Meta(conductor.build) |
| 69 points by kenrose 5 hours ago | 116 comments |
| |
|
| ▲ | Charlieholtz 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Hi! Co-founder here. Conductor actually kicked off with a HN post many lifetimes ago in July 2025 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44594584). I owe so much to this community. Thank you all so much! The whole team is around to help answer any questions. You can reach out to me personally at charlie [at] melty.sh. |
| |
| ▲ | kylecazar an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | "... many lifetimes ago in 2025" This made me laugh. The world is different now. Congrats! | |
| ▲ | jahala 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm in the awkward position of wanting to congratulate you and scold you at the same time. Wish you'd been bought by Anthropic or something instead. Anyhow- congrats on getting scooped up. | | |
| ▲ | breznev 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | What value could they possibly provide Anthropic? This is by far the best-case scenario for the team | | |
| ▲ | jahala 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | A great, stable product - that doesn't try to be absolutely everything - but does a few things really well, and looks great while doing it? |
|
| |
| ▲ | 999900000999 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Are you going to retire now and start a band ? Congratulations, getting an exit in a bit over a year is very very good | |
| ▲ | temp123477 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You lads... I remember when we had to paste the code from the chat window into VSCode. | |
| ▲ | adam-eclse 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Just wanted to congratulate you guys. Like many of us here, I had a mixed reaction of happy for your team, but also sad for Conductor. I tried a bunch of different approaches for coding agents, once I started using Conductor I was like "oh I guess I'm done looking for a harness" - a beautiful clean UI, great UX and just an overall smooth experience with all the features you could need. Hopefully Meta does something good with your team's talent and technology, but regardless, it was a huge productivity boost for me and I really appreciate that. Good luck to you and your team at Meta! | |
| ▲ | dayone1 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | why sellout your company and your customers and community? | | |
| ▲ | williamdclt 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | (As someone who isn't particularly happy about this news) > why sellout your company and your customers and community? Why not? Do you think this is a heart project, that the founders have a personal passion for agent orchestration somehow? They're not curing cancer or supporting orphans, most companies are created to make money, that's how our economic system works (for better or worse, but I'm not going to blame individuals or be surprised about it). "community"... Come on. There's customers, there's no community here. |
| |
| ▲ | doublerabbit 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > The whole team is around to help answer any questions Why did you sell out? | | |
| ▲ | adam-eclse 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Realistically for them, coding harnesses are an extremely competitive landscape, and they have to live in constant fear that Anthropic/OpenAI etc will rugpull them and force these harnesses to go through API billing (effectively killing it as an option for I would guess the majority of their users). That nearly happened earlier this year when Anthropic intimated they were going to do this. The other reality is, there are now good free alternatives to Conductor (I haven't tried them so we will see) - it does suck if you feel very tied to your existing workflow, but I also think about it from the level of 'these people gave me something for free that helped me a lot, and I want things to work out well for them'. | |
| ▲ | 2001zhaozhao 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | $ |
|
|
|
| ▲ | jahala 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Conductor is awesome.
Meta sucks donkey balls, and I refuse to use their products. I'll prolly have claude reverse engineer conductor over the next month so the show can go on ... |
| |
| ▲ | robertn702 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There’s no need to. There are so many alternatives with almost the same feature set like superset.sh and orca.dev. | |
| ▲ | roopakv an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Why not try one of the existing services before you spend time maintaining something yourself? For the past two months, I've been using boxes.dev 95% of all my sessions are on boxes. Initially, the draw was just a remote box that I could control on mobile, but some of the features they have added recently, like coordinating child sessions, are wildly good. I know there are new startups in this space every day, so what tipped things for me was that the team is so responsive and ships features in the matter of hours. | | |
| ▲ | jahala an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Because this one really irked me.. I'm a huge fan of Conductor. To have it fall into the hands of Meta feels like <insert favorite sexually descriptive scenario> by a <insert your stereotype> whilst <insert uncomfortable situation>. So I'll tinker with this on the side, so I can just have my own tooling and be done with it for a while (famous last words) ----- Edit: I'm launching a new open source project: "Conducted" (not affiliated with, or to be confused with any similar brands)
Conducted is MIT license, and will remain open source until hell has frozen over. Looking for contributors ;) .. Feel free to give it a star, throw some agents in its direction. https://github.com/jahala/conducted | |
| ▲ | stryakr an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | do you work at boxes.dev |
| |
| ▲ | mickeyp 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Save tokens and spend them on building cool stuff instead. If you're open to it, give my dreamcoder.ai harness a whirl. | |
| ▲ | feverishaaron 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Agentastic is already pretty close in concept. Why not help improve it? | |
| ▲ | mikigraf 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Been using superset for some time, but they dont have the cloud offering yet.. | | |
|
|
| ▲ | iamunr 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Literally just went to go "all in" on conductor yesterday, and buy into their cloud setup and hope the company keeps going. And today we're doing a refund + moving the org to t3.codes instead. Boo Meta. Boooooooo. |
| |
|
| ▲ | bqsile 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I switched to T3 codes a few weeks ago after being a power user of Conductor and I understand why the product felt a bit stale now. |
|
| ▲ | paultannenbaum 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Heavy conductor user here. Does the hacker news community have any suggestions for replacements? |
| |
| ▲ | davecyen 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I use Paradev (https://paradev.com - previously Superset) and it's great. They posted a migration guide today https://docs.paradev.com/migrate-from-conductor | |
| ▲ | t1ll 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm one of the founders of https://podium.do. We created Podium because none of the other ADEs worked like what we wanted. I think it could be interesting for you to checkout as an alternative because there are similarities to Conductor, plus a few interesting additional features. We are pretty strong for complex tasks because we put an agent native issue tracker at the core of architecture which turned out as a super power in that case. | |
| ▲ | nwparker 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | https://orca.dev
I think it's probably the easiest switch (Conductor imports). I work on Orca and we're shipping frequently. Let us know if you have feedback! (MIT OSS) | | |
| ▲ | mchusma 26 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I switched from conductor to orca because conductor didn’t support mobile app working with local instances and didn’t have a good cli/mcp at the time. Very happy I switched. I’m extremely productive on mobile. It defiiitely feels power usery but i am one so it works great. My only gripe is sometimes it loses connections to workspaces in a way that is hard to recover BUT the meta conductor living on top can resolve it for me. Kudos for having it. | | |
| ▲ | nwparker 10 minutes ago | parent [-] | | If you make a GH issues for your connection problem we can also probably get to the bottom of it! |
|
| |
| ▲ | gateauxd 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I like using https://paradev.com/ | |
| ▲ | 2001zhaozhao 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I will always recommend T3 Code, it is by far the best one I have tried that isn't glued to a specific model provider. Trades blows with Codex / Claude Desktop in terms of features. All of the other multi-provider orchestrators have not been keeping up with Claude Desktop in particular adding features at lightning-speed, but T3 Code somehow manages. (I am building my own tool in this area and I literally downloaded and tried all of them as market research) | | |
| ▲ | isege 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I second this. T3 code especially for remote machine workflows is unmatched. |
| |
| ▲ | twalla an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | there are so many and I'm sure something has changed since I last checked but: - paseo: open, mobile app is a first class citizen, i've been happy with it - orca: vc backed, featureful (built in ios sim, for example) - herdr: vc backed, terminal native, im sure there are more features since i last checked it - t3: open, never used it but folks seem to like it | |
| ▲ | fumplethumb an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | https://ampcode.com/ is amazing! Surprised the community here does not discuss it more. | |
| ▲ | FriendlyMike 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Free 3 month sub to any current Conductor user. We promise to never sell to Facebook, X or other weirdo billionaires. I started this company to get away from working at big tech and not to sell to it. Up to 10 cloud workspaces per person, works with all the things you need.
https://hive.codes/signup | |
| ▲ | hoakiet98 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm obviously biased but Paradev, it imports your Conductor worktrees as is https://paradev.com | |
| ▲ | hmokiguess 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | https://herdr.dev/ | |
| ▲ | mickeyp 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Give my dreamcoder.ai harness a whirl. Runs in your browser on all 3 platforms. Tiling window manager; generous use of keyboard shortcuts, so it's not just for mouse users. | |
| ▲ | feverishaaron 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Agentastic is great for mac users. I'm hoping the project gets a boost with this acquistion. | |
| ▲ | fabioz 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Check Beolis (https://beolis.com). Disclaimer: I'm developing it. | |
| ▲ | harryck9 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Paseo is great | |
| ▲ | 217 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | tern or orca or bb or vanilla claude code desktop / codex desktop | |
| ▲ | 0xb0565e486 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Claude or ChatGPT | |
| ▲ | skorobogatko an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | buzzpot.app :) | |
| ▲ | fabianlindfors 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | getbb.app | |
| ▲ | jl35db 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | boxes.dev! | |
| ▲ | priyadarshy 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | macro.land |
|
|
| ▲ | markerz 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Things will shut down over the next few months. https://www.conductor.build/announcement: Wednesday, Nov 4 New users can no longer sign up for Conductor or download the app.
Friday, Nov 13 Conductor Cloud goes read-only
Local Conductor will continue working as normal for now. It will start winding down in early 2027.
Flashback to Cloudflare acquiring Deno and hiding the shutdown at the bottom of their announcement -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50019911. |
|
| ▲ | stevenou 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Extremely bummed about this. Having cloud webhooks + workspace/session API + isolated VMs has been a massive productivity boost for me. Does anyone have suggestions for products that can match Conductor Cloud, not just Conductor Local? |
| |
| ▲ | nwparker 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Orca dev here! I'd suggest Orca Why? We let you bring your own cloud (versus being locked in). You can bring a local cloud, sandboxes, or whatever you'd like We even launched community plugins this week for VM/sandboxes (our you can have your own internal plugin) https://www.onorca.dev/plugins?kind=machines | |
| ▲ | dregitsky 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | We built https://boxes.dev specifically for cloud dev / isolated VMs (disclosure, I'm one of the founders). Getting work off your laptop is such a productivity boost when you have parallel threads. Obviously there are a ton of products in this category (rest of the comments here have many examples) but we're 100% focused on the cloud experience | |
| ▲ | hoakiet98 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Paradev founder here, our cloud workspaces should cover most of that https://paradev.com | |
| ▲ | 217 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'd say tern or orca, some customization and a decent vps will get you 95%+ of the way there | |
| ▲ | TheGamerUncle 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | superset.sh is quite a good option that will mostly get you there. |
|
|
| ▲ | phildenhoff 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Congratulations to the team - but it's a bitter ending. I wish, in these cases, the company could open source a version of their desktop software. But I'm sure the tech is part of what Meta is acquiring. I started using Conductor in January this year and it was a great tool - Charlie and the team knocked it out of the park. I only migrated to Orca when I needed better multi-machine control, and remote control, but these tools are a dime-a-dozen now. I'm not sure that if I was hunting for a new tool today that I'd pick up Orca. Maybe Herdr? or Stencil's Tern? All that to say - they built a great product with great UX. Looking forward to seeing what they build next at Meta! |
| |
| ▲ | green-frog-445 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | why use a 3rd party tool instead of just spinning up a VM in GCP and calling it a day? Would really appreciate your insight | | |
| ▲ | phildenhoff 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | My needs (multi machine set up, one tool) do not work well with “one VM”. If I ran Claude code on one VM, I’d only have that one machines resources. I’d have to have a second session in another terminal tab which is… well that’s Herdr. And orca. They manage those. |
|
|
|
| ▲ | mgw an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Congrats to the team! It's great to see acquisitions in this space. I personally never thought Conductor was that great, so I built my own with https://podium.do. What I was missing was a built-in task system so more complex tasks can be split up by the agents. And running agents on my own machines of course. |
| |
| ▲ | jahala an hour ago | parent [-] | | Site looks great, congrats - will have a peek - but I feel task handling is better done in the repo itself? (repo-as-the-harness thinking) especially for teams. |
|
|
| ▲ | Raed667 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm not a Conductor user, but the shutdown timeline seems rather rushed no? |
| |
|
| ▲ | gosen 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Glad for the team, sad for the product |
|
| ▲ | maherbeg an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Congrats to the team! This is a great acquire for meta to super speed their coding agent rival. It's very exciting to now have another tier 1 major player in the space. |
|
| ▲ | forthwall 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The economics of these harnesses I don't think lend to many winners, the model usage plans the big guys have at offer will always undercut the small players no matter how much they try to resell an openmodel for $20/mo. Congrats to the team though! |
|
| ▲ | Strongbad536 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I used conductor when it was first released for quite some time. Great product but i ultimately wanted to use my own networked devices to do work, so i moved to herdr and then ultimately to t3 code now. Very happy to see the team get a happy ending/landing! |
| |
| ▲ | dbmikus an hour ago | parent [-] | | Are you using Tailscale for your network, or something else? I've been working on a startup in the "private networks + VMs for agents" space, so I'm always trying to learn how people run their current setups. |
|
|
| ▲ | mushufasa 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I first thought it was about this Conductor: https://github.com/netflix/conductor |
|
| ▲ | leofree 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Might be a dumb question but can you explain in a couple words the benefit VS a well organized claude code CLI that knows to spin sub agents? |
| |
| ▲ | 6thbit 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I had the same question. I think this is in the space of being like the 'trillian' or 'matrix' of ai agents, using multi provider coding agent from a single interface plus some bells and whistles. But I think within claude code and codex subagent support has improved a lot lately and it doesn't seem this would improve that much over that native support if you only use one provider. | |
| ▲ | adam-eclse 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The benefit is not spinning up sub-agents, but spinning up parallel workstreams. They basically took 90% of the friction out of working with and using worktrees. I was using Linear a lot (and enjoying it!) for my issue tracking, but at some point I realized it's more productive to just create a new worktree in Conductor for any bug/feature and cut out the middleman. | | |
| ▲ | leofree 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | hmm so working on different features let's say on the same git, in parallel, without causing issues? Is the improvement of this parallelization worth it on solo projects or it becomes only relevant on big projects with lots of PRs and such? | | |
| ▲ | adam-eclse an hour ago | parent [-] | | It's always useful to have even if you don't need 8 worktrees with agents all going at the same time (I rarely have more than 2-3 active at a time). Typically there a tension between the 'fast way' (a big ol' slop branch bag of assorted changes) and the 'correct way' (carefully isolated branches and PRs) - with a smart implementation of worktrees like Conductor, the correct way becomes just as fast. That's basically the heart of good UX in my mind. |
|
|
|
|
| ▲ | BowBun 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Gah this sucks! Conductor is my main development tool. Now I'm forced to look for alternatives. Why can't they open source it? |
| |
| ▲ | Philip-J-Fry 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Western AI giants have hundreds of billions of dollars to make back in a world where China is releasing open source tooling and open weights models. How else does they make their money back other than finding _something_ proprietary to sell. | |
| ▲ | freedomben 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Over the years I've gotten extremely conservative with adopting any new tooling into my workflow, for exactly reasons like this. | | |
| ▲ | redanddead 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Trusts suck They ruin innovation top down and bottom up at the same time | |
| ▲ | paaloeye 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | With labs spending their fundings left and right and vibe-coding, it's absolutely irresponsible to adopt anything less than 18 months old. |
| |
| ▲ | trcf23 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Not tried it yet but DeltaDB from ZED (and ZED editor more generally) could cover it for you and they are open source. | |
| ▲ | mfe7 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I switched to paseo.sh several months ago. It's just as good if not better. | |
| ▲ | techmunky 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | respectfully, its a claude wrapper. with that said if you really can't live without it-- you have the binary, you know what to do. |
|
|
| ▲ | vadepaysa an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| well, conductor was so great that after using it for a few weeks, I completely stopped fearing a lock-in. I just use the official cli + desktop apps now. tmux + a bit of custom scripting works wonders. |
|
| ▲ | ayayronf 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Congrats to the conductor team! The timeline to migrate off Conductor Cloud feels very aggressive. What tooling are other folks moving to? |
| |
| ▲ | creativeembassy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I switched to Paseo a few months ago. Fully open-source, I've had no issues with it. But no cloud provider option, so to speak. (I run an instance of Paseo in a Hetzner box, agents working full-time, haven't really had to do any maintenance on it...) https://paseo.sh/ | |
| ▲ | ashiban an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | We're building Datadog Studio[0], for both building things, but also following them through to prod [0] https://www.projectcodename.dev/access | |
| ▲ | askedrelic 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Orca is next for me to trial https://www.onorca.dev/ Herdr has been another YC favorite https://herdr.dev/ | | |
| ▲ | pbjerkeseth 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If you like taking bets on smaller oss & independent projects that have no interest in creating a vc backed business, I'm working (9 months+ now) on https://ouijit.com/ gh: https://github.com/ouijit/ouijit It's a bit unique from a design standpoint, but the next release brings it a little more in line with the zeitgeist (but not too much). | |
| ▲ | sbarre 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | FWIW I used Orca for a week and then went back to Herdr.. Orca has a lot of UI bugs, buttons that don't work, menus that don't disappear, etc.. To be fair they push updates quite regularly, but I think I will check back in once it's a bit more stable. | | |
| ▲ | nwparker 32 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Hey, if you have issues please let us know! We test our product like crazy, so I'm quite surprised to hear this.
But feel free to drop me a message, open a GH issue or otherwise. We are OSS MIT and always open to feedback |
|
| |
| ▲ | fabianlindfors 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I moved to getbb.app. Been really happy with it for the past few months. The plugin functionality is really cool. | |
| ▲ | dgritsko 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | T3 Code here, I've been a hardcore user of Conductor for a while but T3 is excellent. |
|
|
| ▲ | FriendlyMike an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Free 3 month sub to any current Conductor user. We promise to never sell to Facebook, X or other weirdo billionaires. I started this company to get away from working at big tech and not to sell to it
https://hive.codes/signup |
|
| ▲ | SethSchilbe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Tried Conductor in the past but had migrated all of our teams remote development work to http://boxes.dev as it was much more intuitive and easier to manage parallel workstreams. Would highly recommend it for anyone looking for an alternative with Conductor shutting down. |
|
| ▲ | babelfish 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Congrats to the team, but bummed out that I'm losing my favorite IDE! |
|
| ▲ | FriendlyMike 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Free 3 month sub to any current
Conductor user. We promise to never sell to Facebook, X or other weirdo billionaires. I started this company to get away from working at big tech and not to sell to it https://hive.codes/signup |
| |
| ▲ | burger_moon an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Appropriate user name too. | |
| ▲ | jmdelatorre 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | rooting for you! | |
| ▲ | platevoltage 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm routing for you. | | |
| ▲ | FriendlyMike an hour ago | parent [-] | | Thank you, we are pre seed and raising. Our team is ex Airbnb where we built agent harness for the last 2 years. We have a sustainable model - 20 a month gets you 10 remote concurrent machines and the full platform tool chain. You can use our ui, mcp through Claude or codex or straight up run codex and Claude server in our VMs. Every sub will be profit for us and means we don’t need to sell the company when it gets larger |
| |
| ▲ | ellievic221 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | thank you for this! |
|
|
| ▲ | gdulli 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Everything you add to your tech stack is a liability. Period. I've always leaned minimalist. |
|
| ▲ | gepeake 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Glad I started migrating all my projects to Paseo yesterday! |
|
| ▲ | SethSchilbe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Tried Conductor in the past but had migrated all of our teams remote development work to http://boxes.dev as it was much more intuitive and easier to manage parallel workstreams. Would highly recommend it for anyone looking for an alternative with Conductor shutting down. |
|
| ▲ | paaloeye 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm so glad I haven't even heard of them |
|
| ▲ | 217 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I will miss it dearly. |
|
| ▲ | inshard 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Doesn’t Claude desktop do all of this and more. Like, is this IP layer super commoditized? |
|
| ▲ | oxfordmale an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Condoleances |
|
| ▲ | cute_boi 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| T3 code is much better than conductor. I will avoid Meta and Google as much as possible. |
|
| ▲ | rsamtravis an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| FUCK |
|
| ▲ | jader201 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| [dupe] of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50369840 |
|
| ▲ | ChrisArchitect 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Some more discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50369840 |