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▲ Doohickey-d a day ago

It's not the OP's story, but it's also not the first story of things hosted at Hetzner being intercepted. Best to not host "such" things there, since they seem quite compliant in that regard: https://notes.valdikss.org.ru/jabber.ru-mitm/ (comments at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37955264 )

▲theturtletalks a day ago | parent | next [-]

Look into the WireCard scandal. WireCard was the Stripe of EU worth billions. They were even audited by one of the big 4 firms and they confirmed it was a real company.

Turns out it was a front for Russian intelligence. Even after the German government found out, the guy still somehow escaped to Russia. There’s a solid chance that Russia operatives have infiltrated the German government. They was even a big hack Russia’s state hackers did and a lot of information was leaked.

I bring this up because Hetzner was asking for my passport to buy a $10/m server. Simple opsec says to just pay a bit more and use DigitalOcean or some other VPS.

▲mort96 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah I tried to move to Hetzner, but bounced off when they wanted my passport info. I've since moved to OVH, where I get significantly more resources for the same money compared to DO, they're a European company hosting in Europe (getting away from US tech was the primary reason I was looking for DO alternatives), and they never asked for my passport!

There are many good non-Hetzner European hosting companies, luckily.

▲purpleidea a day ago | parent [-]

OVH is also asking for id card photos, and full face photos, and I wish there were good hosting companies around.

▲nekitamo 19 hours ago | parent [-]

I can recommend Netcup in Germany. They didn't ask me for ID at the very least.

▲purpleidea 19 hours ago | parent [-]

They don't offer physical/dedicated servers. That's the key!

▲nsoam a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have no idea what this has to do with the topic at hand. What does KYC from Hetzner have to do with Wirecard? Do you mean to say that you suspect that Russia is behind Hetzner?

▲theturtletalks a day ago | parent [-]

That case was so baffling, it left me forever doubting German companies, especially ones that ask for my passport. A lot of businesses used WireCard, even the government itself.

▲ajjahs 17 hours ago | parent [-]

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▲sofixa a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're twisting the Wirecard to such an extent it's de facto wrong.

Wirecard were a German fintech, but didn't have big market penetration across Europe. They were a real company with real operations, but a decent part of its balance sheet was fake (supposedly it was in an Asian subsidiary, there was no money there). It wasn't a front for Russian intelligence, it's COO was a Russian operative (and nowadays runs a shadow intelligence agency from Moscow, using incompetent morons to try to kidnap journalists, or scheming to hire ISIS suicide bombers to blow them up); those connections only surfaced after the whole thing imploded. But the whole company was an actual real place with real operations and real non-russian intelligence employees. It's still not certain if the CEO knew about the COO for instance.

Read the FT series on the whole thing, their investigation started the collapse.

▲Foobar8568 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What? I don't remember that it turned out to be a front for Russian intelligence. WTH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Marsalek

▲dralley a day ago | parent [-]

It was messy. A number of agencies of the German government, including a handful of intelligence agencies, used Wirecard for banking.

▲2OEH8eoCRo0 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The documentary about that was crazy. Like a real life spy thriller.

https://www.netflix.com/title/81404807

▲dboreham a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Russian operatives have definitely infiltrated the US government.

▲nutjob2 a day ago | parent [-]

Yes, but just one man, at the very top.

▲wmf a day ago | parent | prev [-]

All hosting providers comply with local law enforcement.

▲Computer0 a day ago | parent [-]

Not all

▲noAnswer a day ago | parent [-]

Than that is prove that they are operated (or protected) by an intelligence service.