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▲ shevy-java 2 hours ago

The syntax is so archaic ... it really is anything but a thing of beauty.

    prev_balance = PREVIOUS(rec, order_by="Date").Running_Balance or 0
    prev_balance + $Amount
It's such a strange mix-up of stuff. PREVIOUS() is a macro or looks like one, right? But it is a function call assumingly. But then what's with .Running_Balance? Guess that also ties into a function. But why use different syntax for essentially the same thing? It seems rather weird to write code like that. What would the python variant be like? Or a DSL?

The syntax strangeness continues:

    rates = Rates.lookupRecords(Person=$Person, order_by="Rate_Start")
    rates.find.le($Date).Hourly_Rate
Does that really convey most easily what is wanted? It seems needlessly verbose. Why would it require both $Person and $Date? Should that not be easier to figure out in its own right? Is that efficient?

People need to remember that mentally, unless they use AI.

▲whizzter an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I think it's an push in Spreadsheets to become more "DB-alike" for less arbitrary results (like in the problem example the article starts out with) but kind-of misguided since it's complicated to do "easy things".

The root issue is that there's almost 50 years of spreadsheet syntax to consider and not colliding with.

▲paulfitz an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is straight Python. Yes the spreadsheet habit of making functions SHOUT does look weird mixed in with Python syntax.

PREVIOUS returns a record, then .Running_Balance pulls out one field of it.

▲chii an hour ago | parent | next [-]

That's what makes it clunky. Returning a record is OK, but then a record is basically what spreadsheets are (ala, a table). Except records are named columns in a spreadsheet, and accessing it using a dot syntax looks out of place imho.

I reckon it makes more sense to return a table, and then have an index lookup in that table: e.g., index(PREVIOUS(blah_blah), column). Then you can also use an indirection to choose which column from another cell if desired.

This is how google finance in sheets returns some data (like exchange rates, iirc).

▲whizzter an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

What parts are Python and how does one know where the classic Spreadsheet functionality ends and Python starts ?

▲librasteve an hour ago | parent [-]

that’s why https://omasheet.org has its own DSL. that said it’s no doubt got some wrinkles so I’ll be reviewing all the comments on this hn post very carefully

▲librasteve an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

hmmm sigils, eh?