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▲ 999900000999 3 hours ago

A lot of people just think laptop == laptop.

At several companies I’ve seen folks run torrents to watch movies at work.

Once I was on a Zoom call, and I noticed music production software on my colleagues computer.

When I pointed it out, they responded with something like “ Ohh, my kids make music.”

Neat, I guess.

▲GaryBluto 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>Ohh, my kids make music.

It is one thing to do personal things on a work laptop, it is another all together to give your children free reign. Are there no penal measures taken to deter this anymore?

▲debo_ an hour ago | parent [-]

The penal measure is too late, it should have been penally applied before child was conceived.

▲aleph_minus_one 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> A lot of people just think laptop == laptop.

We are talking about highly educated people who work in software development (i.e. can assumed to have some minimum viable knowledge about computers), and not about the dumbest imaginable users.

▲999900000999 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed.

-Darth Vader.

Being able to make React components does not require you to be smarter than the average person.

You also have multiple types of intelligence. I worked with a brilliant intern once. The kid was over 100k in student loan debt and didn’t know the loans can’t get discharged.

▲draygonia an hour ago | parent [-]

They can be discharged if you are determined to be disabled by a doctor and live for 3 years below the poverty income limit.

▲999900000999 an hour ago | parent [-]

The bar for that is extremely high.

They can garnish Social Security if you default on Student Loans.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-much-social-security-garnis...

▲pixl97 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

SWE's are the worst about security, I swear most are worse than the average person when it comes to security practices.

"Need some new software" = "Download it from some random website"

"Software won't run" = "Turn off AV and get it everything permission"

"Still won't run" = "run as root"

▲aleph_minus_one 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> SWE's are the worst about security, I swear most are worse than the average person when it comes to security practices.

My experience is completely different: many software developers are rather paranoid with respect to security, and have quite a good (though far from expert-level) knowledge about security. It's rather that many software developers are quite hostile to security practices that are mostly "security theater" and obstructs them in doing their work.

The following Reddit post

> https://www.reddit.com/r/NonPoliticalTwitter/comments/1e8do2...

and the top answer

> https://www.reddit.com/r/NonPoliticalTwitter/comments/1e8do2...

describe the mindset that I observe rather well.

▲koito17 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's an anecdote, but one of my coworkers has Steam installed on his MacBook (of all computers). He is a data scientist. Technically, we're only allowed to install software from an approved list maintained by the IT security team. They clearly aren't enforcing that policy, though.

▲vkou 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Don't worry, they'll enforce it when someone installs something unapproved and it causes a problem.

▲dylan604 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> We are talking about highly educated people

That's a bit of charity isn't it? Lot's of people in tech that really not that clever even if they are smart. Also, people in HR aren't as tech savvy.

▲aleph_minus_one 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Nearly all people who work in tech have a university degree, many even a PhD.

▲xhkkffbf 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Except for the bosses like Zuckerberg, Jobs, Wozniak, Gates....

Do I need to go on?

▲lirolero 15 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲justsomehnguy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Thanks for the laughs.

No, 'people who work in software development' != 'highly educated people' and those both != 'understand how computers work'.

▲vkou 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> highly educated people who work in software development

> dumbest imaginable users.

They are often one and the same.