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▲ pesnk 2 hours ago

That's what happens when you are building something too fast and affects negativity the local economy. I personal doubt this data centres are really the issue. But we got what we paid for.

▲chasd00 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

FUD spread from competing nation states is where it all originated from. Remember, no one gave a shit about datacenters until the AI race began. If you live in a medium to large city goto google maps and search for "datacenter" in your town, i bet you live within 5 miles of one that you've never even noticed before.

There's even debate about the one being built outside of Amarillo Texas, next to the freaking Pantex site (where all the US nuclear weapons are assembled). Like, opposition to it makes no sense at all hence the reason why the Pantex plant is there. There's nothing within 100 miles to affect (except nuclear warheads i guess) yet there's a debate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/09/business/china-russia-ai-...

edit: let me add that the price of natural gas in TX is effectively zero.. or may even be negative. There's plenty of energy available. Now, availability of turbines to convert those chemical bonds to eletricity is another matter but the gas is there.

▲renehsz an hour ago | parent [-]

The true price of gas power production is the externalized cost of its emissions, which is currently not reflected in the market price but instead paid for by all of humanity.

▲chasd00 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

Natural gas power production is by far the cleanest and most available for this use case. Nuclear would be better but can't be brought online fast enough. Solar/Wind would be best but there's not enough yet either and behind the meter generation isn't even feasible. All things considered, natural gas is the best fit.

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=74&t=11

▲add-sub-mul-div 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't think data centers are directly the issue either, but a proxy for feelings about the LLM era in general.