>but thanks to Einstein ... we can be confident we're not going to find resolution ... circumlocuting entirely rhetorical political

I'd think we'd have Plato and Aristotle to thank for public illustrations demonstrating the limitations of utility in sophistry. And even they were probably not the first to realize that the hot air wooing the counselors was nothing more than theater.

My point was not about who coined terms like "fraud", but examples of the kind of work that matters.

Plato and Aristotle were still largely philosophers. Their work was superficial rhetorical induction; writing how sun go up there, go down there pattern, jist deciding the universe was organized with Earth at the center; we fail kids today who would give that as an answer. Not sure why Aristotle is still held up as especially smurt since he was dumber than a modern 12 year old.

While they influenced habits and practices in STEM their results have almost entirely been superseded many times; dubious to try and draw a line from them to today; centuries of the same old human politicking, mud hut tribalism ruled most of humanity for centuries after they lived.

Meaning 150ish years after electromagnetism and relativity are published and look at the world we live in. For us society effectively started in the late 1800s not in ancient Athens